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Obama = Ghandi, Mandela?

What is your opinion when Obama is compared to Ghandi and Mandela?


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So you can show where he actually compared himself to either Ghandi or Mandela? You have yet to do so. You have in fact avoided addressing the fact that he does not do so, even though it has been pointed out by more than one of us. Ironically, your post here seems to be misdirecting and distracting from the actual point, which is that Obama did not make such a comparison.

This is a poll thread. I let the article speak for itself and let the poster decide if they want to vote or not. It's not my intent to prove or validate anything... I asked a question and simply want to see what the poll shows. In fact, the only thing I've done so far is to point out your whining about the thread.

You've shown you don't agree with the articles premise, have complained about the title of the thread, and have whined loudly about how I have avoided facts.... laughable all around. I see you haven't voted yet... care to? Or shall I brace myself for yet more complaints?
 
I don't know if you guys just can't read, but at no point did he compare himself to either person. All he said was that difficult things most often take time to work out, and he cited their tremendously difficult campaigns as proof. If he compared the benevolence of the work or the impact it had, you'd be onto something... alas, he didn't and as usual republicans are way off base.

Can you guys do anything right?
 
Niether, though Obama's proposed policies would do more for peace than Paul's.

Like sending drones to kill people and assassinations and troop surges and outsourcing torture?
 
This is a poll thread. I let the article speak for itself and let the poster decide if they want to vote or not. It's not my intent to prove or validate anything... I asked a question and simply want to see what the poll shows. In fact, the only thing I've done so far is to point out your whining about the thread.

You've shown you don't agree with the articles premise, have complained about the title of the thread, and have whined loudly about how I have avoided facts.... laughable all around. I see you haven't voted yet... care to? Or shall I brace myself for yet more complaints?

That is not what your poll questions asks. Maybe you should go back and read what you asked. Let me help:

What is your opinion when Obama is compared to Ghandi and Mandela?

Do you see Obama on the same level as Ghandi and Mandela?

You offered up a misleading story along with that.
 
That is not what your poll questions asks. Maybe you should go back and read what you asked. Let me help:



You offered up a misleading story along with that.

Choose to answer the poll or not. If you disagree with the question, you have the choice of not participating. The question is self evident and is posted at the top of this thread. While your continued crying about the question asked is entertaining, it has no valid purpose as I'm not going to change the question or the associated poll.
 
Obama and Ghandi? wow that's a stretch ...

may be a lil physical resemblance here and there .... but apart from that, nah not a thing.


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Choose to answer the poll or not. If you disagree with the question, you have the choice of not participating. The question is self evident and is posted at the top of this thread. While your continued crying about the question asked is entertaining, it has no valid purpose as I'm not going to change the question or the associated poll.

I disagree with the premise of the poll since no one is comparing Obama to either. You quite clearly want people to think he compared himself to those two, but it did not happen. As such the whole poll premise is fundamentally flawed. What I am pointing out is that fundamental flaw in the poll. The one you refuse to address.
 
I disagree with the premise of the poll since no one is comparing Obama to either. You quite clearly want people to think he compared himself to those two, but it did not happen. As such the whole poll premise is fundamentally flawed. What I am pointing out is that fundamental flaw in the poll. The one you refuse to address.
The OP is. It's simply a poll to gauge how people perceive Obama's "movement" to the two gentleman mentioned previously.
 
I disagree with the premise of the poll since no one is comparing Obama to either. You quite clearly want people to think he compared himself to those two, but it did not happen.
I've explained my motives in this thread. Making more and more accusations as me personally?

As such the whole poll premise is fundamentally flawed. What I am pointing out is that fundamental flaw in the poll. The one you refuse to address.
I do not address it because discussing the structure of the poll, or what you see is a flaw is not the purpose of the poll. It's ignored because it's irrelevant. You're opinion of this poll has been noted. Anything else?
 
I see you haven't voted yet... care to? Or shall I brace myself for yet more complaints?

Perhaps if you added true options rather than made up ones we could vote. The article you quoted was misleading as well as your options.
 
I disagree with the premise of the poll since no one is comparing Obama to either. You quite clearly want people to think he compared himself to those two, but it did not happen. As such the whole poll premise is fundamentally flawed. What I am pointing out is that fundamental flaw in the poll. The one you refuse to address.

Well, I am glad that you at least admitted that Obama did not deserve the nobel prize.
 
I've explained my motives in this thread. Making more and more accusations as me personally?

I do not address it because discussing the structure of the poll, or what you see is a flaw is not the purpose of the poll. It's ignored because it's irrelevant. You're opinion of this poll has been noted. Anything else?

So basing the whole premise of a poll on misleading information is now irrelevant? Good luck selling that one...
 
I don't really remember the last time that Obama led a progressive liberation movement...
 
Oh, come on, people. He's absolutely comparing what he's trying to do as President to what Ghandi and Mandela did, so in that sense, yes, yes he IS comparing himself to them.
 
SO you should have no problem showing the quote where he actually did compare himself to those two. Read beyond the headline and find it please.

Here's the headline...

Delusions of grandeur, Mr President? Obama compares himself to Gandhi and Mandela


The article uses the same quotes and Ibama never compares himself to Gandhi or Mandela.

Yet the right likes to believe it's a liberal media.
 
The Daily Heil is notoriously illiberal, even when the competition is run by Murdoch.
 
But the news I'm reading say that the US President gave a speech in which he likened himself to the Mahatma Gandhi and to Nelson Mandela ....


this from the Daily Mail from the UK

Read more: 'Change is hard' Obama tells fundraiser as he compares himself to Ghandi and Mandela | Mail Online




The speech in context was about change, how the ordinary citizen is necessary and how it takes time. His mentioning these great men let's us in, as ordinary people, as to who inspires him, who he wishes to emulate:

‘The civil rights movement was hard,’ he told his audience of donors, while talking about how difficult it is to bring about 'change' in politics.
‘Winning the vote for women was hard. Making sure that workers had some basic protections was hard.
‘Around the world, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, what they did was hard. It takes time. It takes more than a single term.
It takes more than a single president. It takes more than a single individual.
'What it takes is ordinary citizens who keep believe, who are committed to fighting and pushing and inching this country closer and closer to our highest ideals.

'Change is hard' Obama tells fundraiser as he compares himself to Ghandi and Mandela | Mail Online
 
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I thought to myself the other day...

Between Barack Obama and Ron Paul, who really deserved the Nobel Peace Prize?

Neither of them did. Do we need a section of the forum devoted to Ron Paul worship?
 
I don't think that he is literally "comparing" his accomplishments to those of these people directly as that sounds like an exaggeration, but I'm sure that sometimes he may equate his goals with those of Gandhi, Mandela, etc. for propaganda purposes.
 
Neither of them did. Do we need a section of the forum devoted to Ron Paul worship?

Who said anything about worship? And why wouldn't Ron Paul deserve the Nobel Prize for Peace when, for more than 20 years, he has consistently stood for peace and fought against aggressive war (regardless of public opinion or who's waging the war)? Obama, on the other hand, most definitely did not deserve the prize.
 
So basing the whole premise of a poll on misleading information is now irrelevant? Good luck selling that one...

Note: The thread title does not state: "Let's debate the validity of the topic title". And it's already sold... :lamo
 
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