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Guns

What do you think gun control should be like?

  • Let everyone have a gun

    Votes: 19 22.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    Votes: 25 29.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    Votes: 11 12.9%

  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    Votes: 17 20.0%

  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    Votes: 5 5.9%

  • No guns at all

    Votes: 8 9.4%
  • Total voters
    85
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Thunder said:
try reading the thread sometime. it might make your responses look less stupid.
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Maybe I missed you explaining why holding a picture of a BB gun illustrates how you are not afraid of guns.
 
Thunder said:
again, if you read the thread someday, you'll stop saying such stupid things.
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Stupid things...like posting a picture of you (allegedly) holding a BB gun proves you are not afraid of guns?
 
mac said:
Stupid things...like posting a picture of you (allegedly) holding a BB gun proves you are not afraid of guns?
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:lamo

you keep on posting the same stupid, bull**** comment...and yet it remains stupid.

why you do dat?
 
Goshin said:
Using something unlawfully is not proper use, especially if used unlawfully to harm the innocent.


Not splitting hairs, this is pretty fundamental. A knife is made to cut; cutting innocent people with it is misuse.
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No. The label of illegal or unlawful is merely a legal term designed to identify that the user has done something against the law. It has nothing at all to do with if the use is proper or not. One can use burglar tools just as they were intended and the result is a crime.

The invention of a gun - the creation of a gun was as a weapon intended to allow the user to inflict death or harm upon another in the furtherance of their aims or goals. When a criminal uses a gun in the commission of a crime, they are using it exactly as intended. Unlike a knife, it was not intended to have any other utilitarian use.
 
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haymarket said:
No. The label of illegal or unlawful is merely a legal term designed to identify that the user has done something against the law. It has nothing at all to do with if the use is proper or not. One can use burglar tools just as they were intended and the result is a crime.

The invention of a gun - the creation of a gun was as a weapon intended to allow the user to inflict death or harm upon another in the furtherance of their aims or goals. When a criminal uses a gun in the commission of a crime, they are using it exactly as intended. Unlike a knife, it was not intended to have any other utilitarian use.
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well, certain guns were made for shooting birds. some for shooting deer & bear.

some for shooting paper targets. and some for killing human beings.
 
Thunder said:
well, certain guns were made for shooting birds. some for shooting deer & bear.

some for shooting paper targets. and some for killing human beings.
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The shooting as sport at targets evolved later. Go back and read the history of firearms.

A gun is a weapon which fires a projectile intended to kill or maim the being it is aimed at. If that is a human or a beast - the result is till the firer of the weapon exerting their will, goals and dominance over the being that is fired upon.

The use of a firearm in a crime is exactly that. It may be illegal - but its use if proper in the context of the invention and goal of the item itself. To pretend otherwise is to change history and deny reality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_firearm
 
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haymarket said:
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A gun is a weapon which fires a projectile intended to kill or maim the being it is aimed at.....
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the fact is, in 2012, there are MANY firarms that were designed specifically for target shooting or hunting.

there are also many guns designed specifically for blowing holes in people.
 
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Thunder said:
again, if you read the thread someday, you'll stop saying such stupid things.
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Does it really make a bit of difference if its a pellet gun or a bb gun? Regardless if it is a bb gun or a pellet gun it still makes you look foolish when you are posting a picture of yourself holding it and claiming to not be afraid of firearms. You might as well paint a orange tip on that thing. Its like holding a butter knife and claiming not to be afraid of knives or holding a plastic snake and saying you are not afraid of snakes.
 
Thunder said:
this is 2012. we are talking about now.

as in 2012.
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So what? ..... We are talking about the purpose of the invention of the firearm. Please read the sites I have provided for you. Killing is a legitimate purpose of the gun.
 
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Captain America said:
HUH?

I take it English is not your first language?

1. What is my "claim?"

2. What disproves whatever my "claim" is?

Please, at least make an effort to better communicate. I'm a nice guy who enjoys talking to you.
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Captain America said:
In the US, one has the freedom to choose NOT to have a gun as well. But if you want to start a campaign, have at it. I won't get in the way. I wish everybody had a gun. That way the criminal element could be taken out of the gene pool just that much quicker. That's why I probably wouldn't be sucessful politician. LOL!

Here is someone who also thinks along the lines of more gun restrictions.

He says make all guns illegal. And HE'S a professional. Watch and learn.

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you claimed human could get rid of criminal elements in his gene pool if everybody has a gun,and i asked if there wont be any crime if everybody has a gun

then beerftv said this

beerftw said:
quicker than those who recieve the darwin award.:lamo
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then you answered his post
Captain America said:
What he said.

Imagine yourself being an armed robber walking into a McDonald's pulling a gun on the teenage girl at the cash register. You turn around and see a half dozen guns pointing at you. Did you watch the film?
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i think i am right,criminal element wont get out of gene pool,even if all people have guns according to that film...

now i hope you understand your own language:2razz:
 
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jamesrage said:
Does it really make a bit of difference if its a pellet gun or a bb gun? Regardless if it is a bb gun or a pellet gun it still makes you look foolish when you are posting a picture of yourself holding it and claiming to not be afraid of firearms....
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I said nothing about "firarms".

someone very stupidly said I am afraid of guns. so I posted a picture of my pellet gun.

and I posted a picture of bullets that I own.

and I discussed that I am going skeet shooting in 2-weeks, and rifle shooting a few weeks later.

clearly, I am not afraid of guns. Its just a red-herring to get away from the debate.
 
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Thunder said:
well, certain guns were made for shooting birds. some for shooting deer & bear.

some for shooting paper targets. and some for killing human beings.
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My guns are killa-dexterous; they will kill animals and humans. A gun just for paper targets is a waste of time...well, I guess maybe that is called a .22, but they are great for small game and cheap target practice.
 
Thunder said:
the fact is, in 2012, there are MANY firarms that were designed specifically for target shooting or hunting.

there are also many guns designed specifically for blowing holes in people.
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Yes, the primary use is blowing a hole in someone else. Whether that act is legal or not isn't a function of the weapon.
 
Captain America said:
Fair 'nuff.

I had a pretty scary one today. I knew to vest up, and I did. I find the side arm to be a great deterrent. I'm going home tonight safe and sound and I'm looking forward to a rockin' weekend.
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Rockin' hard myself. Am at Kruzzer's Roadhouse tonight. :)
 
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This belongs to my wife, actually. Her parents gave it to her as a Christmas present, when she was eight years old.

Unlike that silly toy that Thunder was showing off, this is capable of doing a lot more than putting someone's eye out.
 
Thunder said:
I said nothing about "firarms".
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That is true.But when you say guns, most people picture firearms. Not something you would give to a child to go practice shooting squirrels or targets with or find in the outdoor kids section of a Bass-Pro website.
 
jamesrage said:
That is true.But when you say guns, most people picture firearms. Not something you would give to a child to go practice shooting squirrels or targets with or find in the outdoor kids section of a Bass-Pro website.
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you mean like the gun, Bob Blaylock posted above, that was given to his wife when she was 8 years old?
 
I'm not sure why, but I felt it was necessary to post this completely off-topic picture:

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Thunder said:
you mean like the gun, Bob Blaylock posted above, that was given to his wife when she was 8 years old?
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Some people can trust their kids with something like that. The difference is you might as well be posting a picture of yourself holding something with a orange tip.
 
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