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Guns

What do you think gun control should be like?

  • Let everyone have a gun

    Votes: 19 22.4%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    Votes: 25 29.4%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    Votes: 11 12.9%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    Votes: 17 20.0%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    Votes: 5 5.9%
  • No guns at all

    Votes: 8 9.4%

  • Total voters
    85
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the day the TP Party starts getting violent with firearms, is the day I get that firearms permit and buy me a semi-auto rifle.


I guess rioters and looters don't worry you-just tea party activists?
 
Buy Turtledude a beer and make nice and I'd bet he'd join us and teach us both a thing ot two.

I certainly believe him when he says he has technical skills.

I part company when he claims god like infallibility on the entire subject. ;)
 
the day the TP Party starts getting violent with firearms, is the day I get that firearms permit and buy me a semi-auto rifle.

What if the TP'ers are in charge of the licensing permits?

How come I feel like I'm speaking another language altogether? It must be a full moon tonight.
 
I guess rioters and looters don't worry you-just tea party activists?
Not to mention most Tea Partiers have been regularly shooting for years, Thunder would be starting from a mile back if his intention is to use the gun against them.
 
I certainly believe him when he says he has technical skills.

I part company when he claims god like infallibility on the entire subject. ;)

After a lifetime of observing some of my closest friends I have learned that the ones with the higher expertise in firearms are usualy the one's with the most alpha-dog traits. It goes with the territory. I guarantee you would appreciate that if you were sharing a foxhole with him.

Live and let live and tolerance has to go both ways or we are all hypocrites.
 
I certainly believe him when he says he has technical skills.

I part company when he claims god like infallibility on the entire subject. ;)

I am God to you on this subject. But there are many of us. Most of the other guys on the US Shooting team or NSSA All-America team were as knowledgeable. Of course few of them had law degrees and even fewer had represented major gun dealers, and manufacturers as well as law enforcement agencies
 
After a lifetime of observing some of my closest friends I have learned that the ones with the higher expertise in firearms are usualy the one's with the most alpha-dog traits. It goes with the territory. I guarantee you would appreciate that if you were sharing a foxhole with him.

Dang- I'm an alpha-dog. :lol:
 
Not to mention most Tea Partiers have been regularly shooting for years, Thunder would be starting from a mile back if his intention is to use the gun against them.

Nothing that a Browning or Ithica .12 ga. couldn't handle.
 
Nothing that a Browning or Ithica .12 ga. couldn't handle.
If they let you use it CA. When someone is good enough you get the shots they allow you to get. But you're right, the shotgun is the great equalizer much of the time.
 
Not to mention most Tea Partiers have been regularly shooting for years, Thunder would be starting from a mile back if his intention is to use the gun against them.

Its why I laugh when I see Urban socialist desk riders braying about rising up against "the rich"


I spend at least 10 hours a week around other shooters, hunters and gun "nuts". My kid is 14 and he has been shooting for 7 Years. Not bb guns, not airsoft, but real firearms starting with a little Walther P-22 pistol and a "Davey Cricket" single shot 22. He has had over 40 hours of defensive shooting training in formal settings and in one class of the 25 students only three "survived" a house clearing exercise, me, my wife and him but I was an instructor at the place at one time. That was when he was 12 and he made 15 yard shot on a hostile holding a hostage-he faked high went down to his knee and put a 38 dead center in the hostile's head. Most everyone else shot the hostage or walked right into the hostile's kill zone

and these leftwing "intellectuals" think they are gonna last 5 seconds in a gun fight with my boy, or worse yet, me
 
That is not a hypothesis. It's a fantasy. ;)

Oh come on, if we got rid of the 43rd amendment that recognizes our right to keep, snort and cook cocaine we'd have no drug addicts at all!!
 
If they let you use it CA. When someone is good enough you get the shots they allow you to get. But you're right, the shotgun is the great equalizer much of the time.

True that. But there is just something romantic about a "tap-tap." Also, the thought of a 300 + yd sniper shot, under camo, kinda gets my dick hard too. LOL!
 
Nothing that a Browning or Ithica .12 ga. couldn't handle.

no weapon is perfect for all circumstances. if you are barricaded behind hard cover, and you control access to your environment and that access point is is less than 35 yards away a pump 12 Shotgun is a good choice

Not so good in close quarters or if your adversary can engage you from over 75 yards away and even if you have slugs, you are at a severe disadvantage past 150 yards
 
no weapon is perfect for all circumstances. if you are barricaded behind hard cover, and you control access to your environment and that access point is is less than 35 yards away a pump 12 Shotgun is a good choice

Not so good in close quarters or if your adversary can engage you from over 75 yards away and even if you have slugs, you are at a severe disadvantage past 150 yards
And even after about 50yds the effective stopping range drops off significantly.
 
I'll sure all the criminals are aware of this. And yet, it doesn't stop them.

Yea. So what is the point of making laws that criminals are supposed to obey?
 
And even after about 50yds the effective stopping range drops off significantly.


true but the new rifled barrel shotguns (it took a ruling by ATF to allow that and further more states that only allow shotgun for deer-like Ohio, had to allow those) with brenneke slugs are accurate to 200 yards

Put a 4X scope or an EOTECH on one of those rifled slug barrels (or even the smooth bores with the rifled choke at the end) and give me a good slug I can make 10/10 chest shots at 200 yards from a sitting position and maybe 8-10 standing
 
After a lifetime of observing some of my closest friends I have learned that the ones with the higher expertise in firearms are usualy the one's with the most alpha-dog traits. It goes with the territory. I guarantee you would appreciate that if you were sharing a foxhole with him.

Live and let live and tolerance has to go both ways or we are all hypocrites.
In general maybe, and certainly the quickest, but in the hunting group I know it's the quiet, thoughtful guy that usually bags the biggest deer.
 
true but the new rifled barrel shotguns (it took a ruling by ATF to allow that and further more states that only allow shotgun for deer-like Ohio, had to allow those) with brenneke slugs are accurate to 200 yards

Put a 4X scope or an EOTECH on one of those rifled slug barrels (or even the smooth bores with the rifled choke at the end) and give me a good slug I can make 10/10 chest shots at 200 yards from a sitting position and maybe 8-10 standing
I had been hearing about the rifled barrels, didn't think it would add that much to the range but I'm impressed. I know going tighter choke pattern buys you 5-10 yards but at close range it hurts you.
 
Why are you afraid to give an honest answer? If there were no guns in America - NOT A SINGLE ONE - how many gun killings would we have each year in the USA?

anyone?

You might as well ask "if there were no armies in the world, NOT ONE, how many wars would we have?"


This is dreamland and does not, will not, can not ever exist.

There's no point in talking about it. We might as well talk about winged Unicorns and defying gravity by putting mint leaves on your shoes.
 
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