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Guns

What do you think gun control should be like?

  • Let everyone have a gun

    Votes: 19 22.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    Votes: 25 29.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    Votes: 11 12.9%

  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    Votes: 17 20.0%

  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    Votes: 5 5.9%

  • No guns at all

    Votes: 8 9.4%
  • Total voters
    85
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TurtleDude said:
Oh I know exactly your position. Your posts indicate that you consider gun owners to be paranoid, and a bit beneath your fine sensibilities and you use gun threads to heap your disdain on such people.
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Turtle - an honest question for you that gets to the heart of this issue: what you just accused Boo of is something you also laid into me for too. A person wants to discuss something related to guns or the Second Amendment and because it is not the usual "I love guns and have a big centerfold over my bed of my favorite one" post, you accuse the person of being anti-gun and being against gun owners.

You did this with me and are doing it with others.

How does it advance any debate or discussion when you have to falsely paint people with views that they are NOT espousing?
 
haymarket said:
Turtle - an honest question for you that gets to the heart of this issue: what you just accused Boo of is something you also laid into me for too. A person wants to discuss something related to guns or the Second Amendment and because it is not the usual "I love guns and have a big centerfold over my bed of my favorite one" post, you accuse the person of being anti-gun and being against gun owners.

You did this with me and are doing it with others.

How does it advance any debate or discussion when you have to falsely paint people with views that they are NOT espousing?
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Your silly bit about a centerolf proves my point 1000 times over. The delicate left wing elite and elite wannabees are so obvious in their motivations. And your silly thread about wanting to tarnish gun rights with dead children was a classic
 
TurtleDude said:
Your silly bit about a centerolf proves my point 1000 times over. The delicate left wing elite and elite wannabees are so obvious in their motivations. And your silly thread about wanting to tarnish gun rights with dead children was a classic
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What is a centerolf? I googled it and could find no such thing.

How does building a memorial to the dead tarnish anyones rights?

Is this more of your "guns are a pure good" belief system at work again?

Why are you unable to see different sides to an issue? Why are you unable to see both positives and negatives in an issue?
 
TurtleDude said:
Oh I know exactly your position. Your posts indicate that you consider gun owners to be paranoid, and a bit beneath your fine sensibilities and you use gun threads to heap your disdain on such people.
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No, you're just one more who fights strawmen stereotypes. Dealing with the actual debate before you would be much more difficult.

:coffeepap
 
stonewall50 said:
That is the problem we have. I mean "certain semi automatic rifles?" We all know who is writing the laws, so it is just an excersise in political control.
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Very true. The assault gun ban in Jersey has a lot to do with cosmetics. A semi-automatic rifle that appears to be an assault weapon is banned, it makes no sense.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
When the sniper is on your side you love them, when he's on the other guys side you hate them. They are effective at killing and cause your enemy alot of psychological stress. Theres nothing scarier than knowing a sniper is in the vicinity.
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I get that, and it's absolutely true, the worst survival chances occur with a sharpshooter in position. Some of my buddies back from theater were telling me that our own guys thought snipers had it easy and were babied.........well until those same snipers cut an ambush short and saved half a platoon anyway.
 
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Chiefgator said:
Very true statement.
Nov '06 Baghdad. I was on a street corner handing out soccer balls to kids when my driver took a single shot to the forehead. Every other mission after that had a whole new feeling.
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That's the worst man. Sorry that happened and thanks for your service, I get that both sides are trying to kill each other but who the hell does that in front of children?
 
LaMidRighter said:
... but who the hell does that in front of children?
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I'm pro-military but I honestly don't understand soldiers who just don't get what guerilla fighting is all about. Maybe it took seeing images from Vietnam and hearing the guys that had been there talk about it, what little they would say at all. **** happened over there that was so horrible most won't even discuss it to this day. They'd rather forget and I feel bad for them that they probably never will.
 
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MoSurveyor said:
I'm pro-military but I honestly don't understand soldiers who just don't get what guerilla fighting is all about. Maybe it took seeing images from Vietnam and hearing the guys that had been there talk about it, what little they would say at all. **** happened over there that was so horrible most won't even discuss it to this day. They'd rather forget and I feel bad for them that they probably never will.
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It's dirty, all war is. I get doing that as an opposition force, when people's children see something vicious it's demoralizing, but I don't get how the insurgents can do that to their own region's children.
 
Medusa said:
i hate guns,only reason is this.
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Ah. Well you are slightly out of place in this thread lol. It appears most of the particpants own more than 1 and shoot a lot. Do you understand that guns are not the problem, and that it is the person behind it? I would assume someone of your intelligence understands that.
 
MoSurveyor said:
I'm pro-military but I honestly don't understand soldiers who just don't get what guerilla fighting is all about. Maybe it took seeing images from Vietnam and hearing the guys that had been there talk about it, what little they would say at all. **** happened over there that was so horrible most won't even discuss it to this day. They'd rather forget and I feel bad for them that they probably never will.
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I was in contact 3 times. Three of my first 5 missions. I did 45 total. I was a fish out of water. A Navy Aircrewman in an Army battalion.

I don't see how anyone could forget.... I certainly never will.....
 
stonewall50 said:
Ah. Well you are slightly out of place in this thread lol. It appears most of the particpants own more than 1 and shoot a lot. Do you understand that guns are not the problem, and that it is the person behind it? I would assume someone of your intelligence understands that.
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:)

it may be dangerous in every hand..okay i am getting out of thread:mrgreen:
 
Medusa said:
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it may be dangerous in every hand..okay i am getting out of thread:mrgreen:
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Well don't worry. In the right hands you would never be in danger. Now I cannot say the same for those who look to do harm to others.
 
stonewall50 said:
Well don't worry. In the right hands you would never be in danger. Now I cannot say the same for those who look to do harm to others.
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Mine too. Mine never even left the holster one night and made one innocent person's life much easier, the person protected didn't even know about it, the jackass that was looking to do something stupid had an idea though.
 
Chiefgator said:
I was in contact 3 times. Three of my first 5 missions. I did 45 total. I was a fish out of water. A Navy Aircrewman in an Army battalion.

I don't see how anyone could forget.... I certainly never will.....
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If you don't mind me asking, what the hell was an airedale doing with a bunch of ground pounders in the middle of a desert?
 
haymarket said:
What is a centerolf? I googled it and could find no such thing.

How does building a memorial to the dead tarnish anyones rights?

Is this more of your "guns are a pure good" belief system at work again?

Why are you unable to see different sides to an issue? Why are you unable to see both positives and negatives in an issue?
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Its a typo and you knew what was frefering too

You pretended to be pro gun and everyone-left, right, and middle thrashed that bit of dishonesty.

There is no negative to a right anymore there is a negative to a tool (assuming it works as intended)

Someone can misuse or abuse a right or misuse a tool or use it improperly

that is where your obvious errors and confusions come from
 
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