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Guns

What do you think gun control should be like?

  • Let everyone have a gun

    Votes: 19 22.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    Votes: 25 29.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    Votes: 11 12.9%

  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    Votes: 17 20.0%

  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    Votes: 5 5.9%

  • No guns at all

    Votes: 8 9.4%
  • Total voters
    85
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Boo Radley said:
How we view guns. It's almost religuous.
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In some cases you are correct. I have many friends that view their guns as almost a part of the family.
I do not go that far, but you would be hard pressed to convince me to ever give up my right to keep and bear arms.
 
Being a gun owner I do not feel my guns are a part of my family. However when I am able to carry a concealed weapon I will do so and it will be a part of me for my own safety as well as my families safety. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
 
cthomp said:
Being a gun owner I do not feel my guns are a part of my family. However when I am able to carry a concealed weapon I will do so and it will be a part of me for my own safety as well as my families safety. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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How reasonable that is depends a lot on how much real danger you face.
 
Chiefgator said:
In some cases you are correct. I have many friends that view their guns as almost a part of the family.
I do not go that far, but you would be hard pressed to convince me to ever give up my right to keep and bear arms.
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I actually don't intend to. But I would like a little more reason all around concerning weapons.
 
Boo Radley said:
How reasonable that is depends a lot on how much real danger you face.
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How does anyone know how much danger they will face until they are in a certain situation. People are crazy. You never know what situation you could end up in. I'll be prepared for a dangerous situation. Hopefully I am never in a dangerous situation. If I am in one I will be prepared.
 
Boo Radley said:
How reasonable that is depends a lot on how much real danger you face.
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This is something that we will never agree upon I think.

Those Soldiers on FT Hood must have believed they were in the safest place on the planet.
 
stonewall50 said:
A revolver is not a semi-automatic. I don't think it matters how many shots you want to take. The less bullets you plan on expending the more dangerous I think you are going to be anyway....to yourself or others. Always watch out for the guy who says...can I buy A bullet. Or can I buy 2 bullets? And if he says 3 bullets...it is probably for that guy that his wife cheated with.
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As a side comment. I have chosen not to carry a .45 because doing so limits the number of rounds I can fire without reload.
 
haymarket said:
There is the difference between you and me. I do NOT have a religious like zeal about any right or freedom or liberty. I recognize that all rights in a society have to be balanced and considered with the individual rights of others as well as the good of all of society as a whole. This not only applies to the Second Amendment, it applies to ALL rights people have.

The Second Amendment is included in that.

I truly am convinced that there are people in America today, and perhaps you are one of these people, who do look at the Second Amendment as a pure good - as a mitzvah - from which nothing bad can evolve. That view is not only foolish in a society of 311 million people it is naive and almost childlike in its approach and simplicity and denial of reality that jumps off the daily newspaper.

I am pro Second Amendment. I am convinced that - on balance - it does more good for our nation that it does bad for our nation. I am convinced that it benefits more people in our nation that it causes harm or damage to people in our nation. So when I weigh these considerations of practicality and reality, I come down on the side of the Second Amendment. I would NOT abolish it. I would NOT severly limit practical rights that flow from it necessary to carry it out or use it.

But that does not put me with the pure good firearms advocates that you now admit to being one of. And that does not make me against the Second Amendment because I am not one of you.
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1) you are not pro second amendment as that is commonly understood in the USA. Your thread about trying to saddle the second amendment with those dead children killed by that nutcase in Chardon, Ohio is proof enough

2) your religious zeal is to help the dem party at all costs and to advocate taking more wealth from those who already pay too much

3) there is no bad that comes from the second amendment unless you are a criminal, or a rogue government agent or a tyrant. We have a complete ban on some narcotics and those are readily available. No second amendment would not mean criminals are disarmed
 
Thunder said:
honestly, if I was Governor I would instruct the State Police to search EVERY car that comes to NYC from Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, and Texas.
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Hopefully lots of the cops doing that would be sued into the poor house along with the governor for violating the constitutional rights of individuals. In fact I would not lose any sleep if a bunch of them got their asses blown off for such predations of privacy
 
TurtleDude said:
Hopefully lots of the cops doing that would be sued into the poor house along with the governor for violating the constitutional rights of individuals. In fact I would not lose any sleep if a bunch of them got their asses blown off for such predations of privacy
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i have to say, you really do seem to enjoy discussing violence against politicians & law enforcement. FALN, the Black Panthers, Jared Laughner, Tim McVeigh, would all agree with you on this matter.
 
MoSurveyor said:
I think shotguns, some rifles, and a few pistols only need a quick check. Semi-automatics (incl revolvers) need a background check. Basically, if you want to take more than two or three shots at once you should be checked out.

I would suggest fear - but it could be they take this poll as meaning handguns as opposed to all guns.
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when someone makes an error of this magnitude its hard to ever find them credible on any gun issue
 
Thunder said:
taxes...has nothing to do with this thread.
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You obviously did not take my advice and read the post I was responding to.
 
Thunder said:
TurtleDude said:
Hopefully lots of the cops doing that would be sued into the poor house along with the governor for violating the constitutional rights of individuals. In fact I would not lose any sleep if a bunch of them got their asses blown off for such predations of privacy
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i have to say, you really do seem to enjoy discussing violence against politicians & law enforcement tyrants and criminals who operate under the color of law.
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Fixed it for you.
 
Thunder said:
i have to say, you really do seem to enjoy discussing violence against politicians & law enforcement. FALN, the Black Panthers, Jared Laughner, Tim McVeigh, would all agree with you on this matter.
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You seem to find it distasteful to discuss killing people like Pol Pot, Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler, and other such despots.
 
TurtleDude said:
1) you are not pro second amendment as that is commonly understood in the USA. Your thread about trying to saddle the second amendment with those dead children killed by that nutcase in Chardon, Ohio is proof enough

2) your religious zeal is to help the dem party at all costs and to advocate taking more wealth from those who already pay too much

3) there is no bad that comes from the second amendment unless you are a criminal, or a rogue government agent or a tyrant. We have a complete ban on some narcotics and those are readily available. No second amendment would not mean criminals are disarmed
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You have already admitted in this very thread that you view the Second Amendment as a pure good. You are so far out there on that extremist limb that you cannot even see any negative or bad that comes from it even when I admit that the good far outweighs that negative small part. That puts you in the hopelessly irrational category. There is simply no rational discussion with such an extremist.
 
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Thunder said:
wtf does this have to do with gun control?
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Nothing at all. It is simply standard Turtle response #5. Its like your knee getting hit with that little rubber hammer - the response is unavoidable.
 
TurtleDude said:
You seem to find it distasteful to discuss killing people like Pol Pot, Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler, and other such despots.
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His view on millitias told me all I needed to know. Associating them falsely with the right and then throwing out names like McVeigh(ind. left), Laughner(ind. left), and the Black Panthers(D) were all laughable in their application after the initial assertion.
 
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