View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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Thread: Guns

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    As for psychopaths, is there a way to prove he is a psychopath prior to his acquiring a gun?

    Sure, there is.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Wisconsin just passed its open carry law and we've already seen one instance where vigilante justice was carried out in a grocery store. In a nutshell, two robbers entered the store, one was armed and the other was not. A man carrying a gun shot the armed robber and stopped it from happening.

    Now don't get me wrong, hooray for the trigger happy customer. However, lets say he missed and shot the innocent bystander behind the robber. I know its a serious stretch here, but he WAS in a grocery opening fire. I just don't get the whole argument that "the more guns the better" (hocks a loogey ina spitoon)
    REALLY? You call that "vigilantism?" He shot the ARMED suspect. He didn't muder him. Then you propose the what ifs? What if the armed robber had opened fire and killed everyone in the store? What if a meteor struck outside?

    What DID happen is that the guy didn't miss. He shot well and stopped the armed attack. Are you aware that Civillians have a lower rate of error than police when it comes to shootings. 2% to the 11% on police. Civillians also shoot more criminals.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

    It does not state "only the right of those without a past criminal action", or "only the right of those whom we deem worthy". It says the right shall not be infringed.
    Felonds are not citizens. The Constitution only applies to Full Citizens.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Felons are not citizens. The Constitution only applies to Full Citizens.
    ?????????????

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If felon has served his time, and paid his debt to society, yes. As for psychopaths, is there a way to prove he is a psychopath prior to his acquiring a gun? If so, is he a ward of the state who is institutionalized, or is he a free member of society who functions and works?
    With Pyschopaths generally show warning signs and are not allowed to carry weapons if they are shown to be a danger to society.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Felonds [sic] are not citizens.
    Where does it say that in the Constitution?
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    With Pyschopaths generally show warning signs and are not allowed to carry weapons if they are shown to be a danger to society.
    Who has shown them to be a psychopath prior to some type of felonious action on their part? Just because someone acts suspicious or mentally unstable, it doesn't imply that they can or should be declared a psychopath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Felonds are not citizens. The Constitution only applies to Full Citizens.
    A felon who is incarcerated is not a *free citizen*. They retain their citizenship, but they are not in the civilian population.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    A felon who is incarcerated is not a *free citizen*. They retain their citizenship, but they are not in the civilian population.
    folks who are freed from prison after serving their sentence, are still considered felons.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    folks who are freed from prison after serving their sentence, are still considered felons.
    I realize that. I don't support the idea that people who have paid their debt to society should still be marginalized as citizens once they are free again.
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