View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    i hate when trigger is pulled
    That is understandable. Violence is not something that some people can accept. I am all for pacifism. Of course sometimes I feel that sometimes pacifism only exists through superior firepower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    That is understandable. Violence is not something that some people can accept. I am all for pacifism. Of course sometimes I feel that sometimes pacifism only exists through superior firepower.

    Its sort of like that question some idiot reporter asked me after I shot a mugger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    i dont know the second amendment,but i cant understand the right of having gun
    This is a general Western Political theory. Basically what is said is that all people have a right to defend themselves from anyone that should take their rights. So if you understand the United States Constitution in terms of our bill of rights, then you understand that we have free religion, free expression, free speech, and all of that. Basically freedom from oppression. The only problem is that those are unenforceable. The biggest problem in history has never been the people taking away those rights. It has always been government that decides we don't need those. Not to mention other people will take away those rights (through murder or coercion). The 2nd amendment is the only protection from that. It is the right that gives teeth to all the others.

    The reason why the gun is so essential is because it is the equalizer. An 80 year old woman can kill a 20 year old man in his prime. Just like those who fly bombers or drones can be shot, politicians who make bills that revoke rights have to worry about them as long as they are in the open. The 2nd amendment is more than just a right to guns, it is a right to self defense. In the UK they have banned OC (pepper) spray and tasers. Why? It certainly has nothing to do with a murder rate, and it certainly doesn't seem fair to the 18 year old rape victim who has no chance against a man twice her size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do you hate rights? that is the true extremism

    and you really have demonstrated you don't have the knowledge sufficient to debate anyone on firearms

    you still think that dead children gave their lives for the second amendment
    I am NOT debating you on the technical aspects of firearms. I could not give a bag of manure about that topic. Sadly, that is what extremist gun nuts always try to do - reduce the argument to the absurdity of who knows more about technical aspects of guns. Of course, YOU have laready declared that you are never wrong about this subject so what the hell is the point?

    Tell me that Turtle. If you are an infallible GOD on this subject, what the hell is the point of any other person alive saying one word about guns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its sort of like that question some idiot reporter asked me after I shot a mugger

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    I have total confidence that you were expressing the truth and the total and complete depth of your emotions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I am NOT debating you on the technical aspects of firearms. I could not give a bag of manure about that topic. Sadly, that is what extremist gun nuts always try to do - reduce the argument to the absurdity of who knows more about technical aspects of guns. Of course, YOU have laready declared that you are never wrong about this subject so what the hell is the point?

    Tell me that Turtle. If you are an infallible GOD on this subject, what the hell is the point of any other person alive saying one word about guns?

    The only extremists are those who try to crap on our constitutional rights by claiming that our exercise of a right kills children as you have.

    You are always wrong on guns because you are quite ignorant about the issues surrounding them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The only extremists are those who try to crap on our constitutional rights by claiming that our exercise of a right kills children as you have.

    You are always wrong on guns because you are quite ignorant about the issues surrounding them.
    If you are an infallible GOD on the subject of guns and look at the Second Amendment as an absolute pure good - why should any person on the face of the earth say one word about the subject other than you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have total confidence that you were expressing the truth and the total and complete depth of your emotions.
    Get mugged, get your nose broken, have an adrenalin jolt that keeps you up for two days and get back to me Haymarket. That same idiot reporter asked me why I didn't just give these poor "youths" (they were both 18) my wallet since I was wealthier than they were. The DA asked the lady reporter if that was her position on rape cases as well

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The only extremists are those who try to crap on our constitutional rights by claiming that our exercise of a right kills children as you have.

    You are always wrong on guns because you are quite ignorant about the issues surrounding them.
    He might as well debate the technicals of firearms cause he know about as much as the constitutional aspect of this argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If you are an infallible GOD on the subject of guns and look at the Second Amendment as an absolute pure good - why should any person on the face of the earth say one word about the subject other than you?
    Your understanding of rights and your attempt to diminish a right that your beloved party has pissed on for the last 80 years are rather disturbing to any freedom loving patriot

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