View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post


    it may be dangerous in every hand..okay i am getting out of thread
    Well don't worry. In the right hands you would never be in danger. Now I cannot say the same for those who look to do harm to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Well don't worry. In the right hands you would never be in danger. Now I cannot say the same for those who look to do harm to others.
    Mine too. Mine never even left the holster one night and made one innocent person's life much easier, the person protected didn't even know about it, the jackass that was looking to do something stupid had an idea though.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    I was in contact 3 times. Three of my first 5 missions. I did 45 total. I was a fish out of water. A Navy Aircrewman in an Army battalion.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What is a centerolf? I googled it and could find no such thing.

    How does building a memorial to the dead tarnish anyones rights?

    Is this more of your "guns are a pure good" belief system at work again?

    Why are you unable to see different sides to an issue? Why are you unable to see both positives and negatives in an issue?

    Its a typo and you knew what was frefering too

    You pretended to be pro gun and everyone-left, right, and middle thrashed that bit of dishonesty.

    There is no negative to a right anymore there is a negative to a tool (assuming it works as intended)

    Someone can misuse or abuse a right or misuse a tool or use it improperly

    that is where your obvious errors and confusions come from

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    i hate guns,only reason is this.
    its silly and juvenile to hate an inanimate object.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its a typo and you knew what was frefering too

    You pretended to be pro gun and everyone-left, right, and middle thrashed that bit of dishonesty.

    There is no negative to a right anymore there is a negative to a tool (assuming it works as intended)

    Someone can misuse or abuse a right or misuse a tool or use it improperly

    that is where your obvious errors and confusions come from
    What I have repeatedly stated is that I support the Second Amendment and I believe it is more of a positive than it has negatives.

    Somehow, someway, that seems to be not enough for you.

    Every right has a negative that can come of it because it is associated with human beings exercising it and human beings are not perfect. Thus, your embracing the idea that the Second Amendment is a perfect good is absurd. It is a denial of reality.

    The First Amendment can result in slander and libel so we have laws protecting against that negative that can arise from exercising ones freedom of speech and freedom of the press. However, a strict reading of the actual text of the Firtst Amendment says otherwise:


    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Slander and libel are indeed negatives which can flow from a perfectly good right. But even those are not perfect goods.

    The Second Amendment is no different and even some of your fellow gun supporters have admitted so.

    But again, that is not enough for you. You seem to take the stance that unless one is among the most ardent and totally devoted gun nuts in the land, they are then anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment. This desire to paint anyone who accepts reality and subtleties and both the pro and con of the Second Amendment as a gun grabber only marganilizes the one who would attempt that dishonest tactic.
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    We were taught, "Gentlemen, this is a handgun. It is lethal when correctly pointed and utilized. The only problem with it is it is uni-directional. And this, gentlemen, is a knife, in close quarters, it can be deadlier than the handgun. This, my friends is a pump shotgun. This noise here, "Wrakrak" (as he pumped a shell in the chamber) has stopped more crimnal in their tracks than either the handgun or knife and it has done so without even firing."

    I still remember that lecture just like it was yesterday. It is as true today as it was 30 years ago when I was a rook.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What I have repeatedly stated is that I support the Second Amendment and I believe it is more of a positive than it has negatives.

    Somehow, someway, that seems to be not enough for you.

    Every right has a negative that can come of it because it is associated with human beings exercising it and human beings are not perfect. Thus, your embracing the idea that the Second Amendment is a perfect good is absurd. It is a denial of reality.

    The First Amendment can result in slander and libel so we have laws protecting against that negative that can arise from exercising ones freedom of speech and freedom of the press. The Second Amendment is no different and even some of your fellow gun supporters have admitted so.

    But again, that is not enough for you. You seem to take the stance that unless one is among the most ardent and totally devoted gun nuts in the land, they are then anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment. This desire to paint anyone who accepts reality and subtleties and both the pro and con of the Second Amendment as a gun grabber only marganilizes the one who would attempt that dishonest tactic.
    In all fairness, I have to say that I get your point. TD knows I am pro-gun. Hell, everybody knows that. But that doesn't mean we should have to live in a society where carrying around a shoulder fired missle is considered acceptable. Eventually, common sense has to prevail.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What I have repeatedly stated is that I support the Second Amendment and I believe it is more of a positive than it has negatives.

    Somehow, someway, that seems to be not enough for you.

    Every right has a negative that can come of it because it is associated with human beings exercising it and human beings are not perfect. Thus, your embracing the idea that the Second Amendment is a perfect good is absurd. It is a denial of reality.

    The First Amendment can result in slander and libel so we have laws protecting against that negative that can arise from exercising ones freedom of speech and freedom of the press. However, a strict reading of the actual text of the Firtst Amendment says otherwise:


    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Slander and libel are indeed negatives which can flow from a perfectly good right. But even those are not perfect goods.

    The Second Amendment is no different and even some of your fellow gun supporters have admitted so.

    But again, that is not enough for you. You seem to take the stance that unless one is among the most ardent and totally devoted gun nuts in the land, they are then anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment. This desire to paint anyone who accepts reality and subtleties and both the pro and con of the Second Amendment as a gun grabber only marganilizes the one who would attempt that dishonest tactic.
    Stop the nonsense-you try to smear the second amendment and lay a massive guilt trip on gun owners by your obvious crap that we should see those innocent children killed last week as paying the price for our rights

    It won't work Haymarket and your claims are so bogus that even lefties called you out on it

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its silly and juvenile to hate an inanimate object.
    i hate when trigger is pulled

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