View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure. But this means an uneven situation. But if both stores, all stores in the area have weapons. Crime doesn't go away. Instead, the crime automatically becomes more violent. Shot first.
    Maybe, but maybe not. Any statistics showing this is true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    Maybe, but maybe not. Any statistics showing this is true?

    Likely not. But the reasoning is rather sound. Remember, we had violence in the old west. Remember prohabition? Folks were armed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Likely not. But the reasoning is rather sound. Remember, we had violence in the old west. Remember prohabition? Folks were armed.
    Prohibition was more organized crime involving gangs and the mafia. The reasoning is sound, but also has holes in it. If more people carry a gun there is always the chance someone walks by or walks in the store when a robbery is taking place or about to take place. This in itself can act as a deterrent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    Prohibition was more organized crime involving gangs and the mafia. The reasoning is sound, but also has holes in it. If more people carry a gun there is always the chance someone walks by or walks in the store when a robbery is taking place or about to take place. This in itself can act as a deterrent.

    Again, like organized crime did, folks plan for that. Sometimes well and some times poorly. If I am going to steal, to commit a crime, I will. All that will change is how I go about it. As they say about locks, they are for honest people. They mean nothing to the person bent on stealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, like organized crime did, folks plan for that. Sometimes well and some times poorly. If I am going to steal, to commit a crime, I will. All that will change is how I go about it. As they say about locks, they are for honest people. They mean nothing to the person bent on stealing.
    Maybe it won't stop you, but could very well stop other criminals. I'm not saying it is going to stop all criminals, but will stop some. I'm all for stopping some criminals. Florida has made it easier to get a concealed carry permit and their crime has gone down in all areas of violent crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    I never walk down the street looking at people thinking "this person might attack me." Again it is being prepared for the unexpected. If no one is allowed to carry guns than only criminals will carry guns. Criminals would be aware of this and attacking another person is easier for them. They can target anyone. Your coming off more paranoid in the sense that you are worried about more law abiding citizens carrying guns.
    I am pro-gun.

    Check deeper in this thread and the other gun threads.

    I'm offended that you made an incorrect assumption about me because I was wondering what everyone was worried about.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    Maybe it won't stop you, but could very well stop other criminals. I'm not saying it is going to stop all criminals, but will stop some. I'm all for stopping some criminals. Florida has made it easier to get a concealed carry permit and their crime has gone down in all areas of violent crime.

    I don't thin there are absolutes here, but I believe over all it would be a wash. For every criminal it deterred, I suspect we'd add another accident shooting or stupid shooting. And that those crimes committed will likely be more violent and not less, because the criminal now won't be able to wait and see if he can do it without shooting.

    Admittedly, both of us need more rigorious studies done, and without the causal relationship errors found in so many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Admittedly, both of us need more rigorious studies done, and without the causal relationship errors found in so many.
    Agreed. (10 characters)

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    I am pro-gun.

    Check deeper in this thread and the other gun threads.

    I'm offended that you made an incorrect assumption about me because I was wondering what everyone was worried about.
    I am sorry to have offended you. I thought you were mocking the fact to be prepared. There has been an obvious miscommunication.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    I am sorry to have offended you. I thought you were mocking the fact to be prepared. There has been an obvious miscommunication.
    I guess I kind of was mocking the being prepared comment. I just don't think that we need to be so afraid all the time. I got offended that you said "Your coming off more paranoid in the sense that you are worried about more law abiding citizens carrying guns."
    Which to me implied that you thought I was anti-gun. It's all good, just misunderstanding both ways I guess.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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