View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the point is, if you have a gun you have a much better chance than if you don't
    Question: Who do you suppose is going to want you dead in the first place?

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Guns

    Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to the police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to the police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
    Great way to frame any debate!!!


    Not.


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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Great way to frame any debate!!!


    Not.


    when dealing with those antis whose main motivation is a snarky or sanctimonious attitude towards "benighted" gun owners, a777Pilot's framing the issue the way he did is perfect
    Last edited by TurtleDude; 03-08-12 at 01:24 PM.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to the police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
    So this woman with the gun has it in her hand all the time? Or is it in a holster on her hip. Or is it in her purse. So, if it's in her hand it can be pointed at me but she is legally toast. OK in her hand and and I walk by, oops that gun is mine; and, unless it was cocked it wouldn't have fired. On her hip, that gun is mine. In her purse, that gun is mine. And I can fense that gun to my pawn shop. Shall I continue?

    I think that a woman with a gun is generally more of a target and more likely to be attacked. So keep it hidden, it may be useful to help someone else.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Great way to frame any debate!!! Not.



    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post

    when dealing with those antis whose main motivation is a snarky or sanctimonious attitude towards "benighted" gun owners, a777Pilot's framing the issue the way he did is perfect
    Hey, Hey, OVER HERE!!!!! TD, as you know I am pro-gun. I would however like to know Who you suppose is going to want you dead in the first place?
    Last edited by taxigirl; 03-08-12 at 01:24 PM.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
    --Randolph J. Dworkin

    ďReading makes a full man, meditation a profound man, discourse a clear man.Ē
    -- Ben Franklin

    "It has been said that something as small as the flutter of a butterfly's wing can ultimately cause a typhoon halfway around the world"
    -- Chaos Theory

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    So this woman with the gun has it in her hand all the time? Or is it in a holster on her hip. Or is it in her purse. So, if it's in her hand it can be pointed at me but she is legally toast. OK in her hand and and I walk by, oops that gun is mine; and, unless it was cocked it wouldn't have fired. On her hip, that gun is mine. In her purse, that gun is mine. And I can fense that gun to my pawn shop. Shall I continue?
    you aren't making a rational point. An armed victim is less likely to be hurt or slain than an unarmed one. If you are afraid to carry a gun don't-but don't start pretending you are wise enough to tell others what to do

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Hey, Hey, OVER HERE!!!!! TD, as you know I am pro-gun. I would however like to know Who you suppose is going to want you dead in the first place?
    that has no relevance-the people who tried to mug me had no intent to single me out personally, I was just a target of opportunity.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that has no relevance-the people who tried to mug me had no intent to single me out personally, I was just a target of opportunity.
    You said
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the point is, if you have a gun you have a much better chance than if you don't
    that implies someone has a better chance against something. What is that something? How many people -- I guess what percentage-- are robbed/mugged etc... (a violent crime), not just in populated areas, but the US as a whole? Why do we need to be so worried all the time?

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
    --Randolph J. Dworkin

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    You said that implies someone has a better chance against something. What is that something? How many people -- I guess what percentage-- are robbed/mugged etc... (a violent crime), not just in populated areas, but the US as a whole? Why do we need to be so worried all the time?
    that really makes no sense to me. I couldn't care less what the percentages are. You are better off being armed than not armed if there is even a remote chance of being targeted for violent criminal assault for any reason.

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