View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Great if this works and great if men are shown how NOT to use a gun....How to self defend without killing others..The Conservatives here must remember that its 2012 not 1612...0r 1912..
    that's a really stupid comment. self defense is as important today as it was 100 years ago.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's a really stupid comment. self defense is as important today as it was 100 years ago.
    People are people TD, and we die just as easily today as any other time period. I don't know how people don't get that.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Great if this works and great if men are shown how NOT to use a gun....How to self defend without killing others..The Conservatives here must remember that its 2012 not 1612...0r 1912..
    Army Combatives works towards 2 goals:

    To controle the opponant until your buddy arives with a gun, and to always work to return to your primary weapon, which is also a gun.

    Unfortunantly this doesn't translate very well in the civilian world, because while in the militery we draw our weapon at the onset of conflict, as a civilian we have to ramp up force before unholstering.

    Pressure points are a fantastic way to quickly learn efective self defence; but remember that pressure points only work when you issue a command. If you don't give a command you'll just piss the guy off and he'll beat the **** out of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    People are people TD, and we die just as easily today as any other time period. I don't know how people don't get that.

    they seem immune to news reports and other obvious bits of evidence.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's a really stupid comment. self defense is as important today as it was 100 years ago.
    Yeah self defence is important but how abt this scenario? - latest news

    (CNN) -- A fired employee of Episcopal High School in Jacksonville, Florida, returned to the school Tuesday, shot and killed the headmistress and then killed himself, authorities said.

    The gunman, who was terminated earlier in the day and carried an assault rifle in a guitar case, went to the office of Headmistress Dale Regan, Undersheriff Dwain Senterfitt with the Jackonsville Sheriff's Office told reporters.
    2 adults dead in Florida high school shooting - CNN.com

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Yeah self defence is important but how abt this scenario? - latest news



    2 adults dead in Florida high school shooting - CNN.com
    Relevance? I can go online and find defensive uses to probably about a 24:1 ratio against your "two shot in Florida" example with minimal effort. Do learn more about firearms and our RIGHTS before you opine.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    But I don't pretend it represents reality, as some here are.
    I don't think anyone here believes it's reality. We were discussing the general subject and my brain produced that movie title as an obvious relation even if it is fiction. Had we been discussing aliens any number of movies would have made the list from Close Encounters to AVP, depending on the details of our discussion.


    Fail Safe has more drama but is a very good movie as well.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you have disdain for a mainly fictional attitude that is mostly a nonexistent phenomenon of leftwing creative thinking
    Nope. For a real attitude.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Relevance? I can go online and find defensive uses to probably about a 24:1 ratio against your "two shot in Florida" example with minimal effort. Do learn more about firearms and our RIGHTS before you opine.
    OK I have to agree with you.

    And this is a good read:

    The World Wide Web Gun Defense Clock

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do you really think no one would be able to get such in that situation? Our army would just fall aside, with no one having access or getting any of those weapons?

    Seriously, having your small arms is meaningless. I'm just saying, the mythology doesn't add up any more.
    What are you talking about? "be able to get such in that situation?" ? And what about the military falling aside? There is no doubt our military kicks ass, but in the unlikely event something incredibly bad happens, do you really think civilians with weapons will be worthless and meaningless? Really? That seems ridiculous.

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