View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    After two insurgent/asymetrical wars for experience, I have e feeling the US military would put up a bit more resistence than Algiers.... let's hope it never comes to that.
    given the inclinations of those who join, I would suspect that the US Military would also see severe retention issues. Every Marine grunt I worked with would salivate at the thought of getting to play insurgent for a change.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I've seen it postulated before that many in the military would refuse the orders to shoot citizens simply because they are sworn to uphold the constitution. Don't know how true that is and hope we never find out.

    depends on the citizens.


    i mean... yeah, of course I would shoot my officers before I would shoot real people. but if it was just hippies?

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    depends on the citizens.


    i mean... yeah, of course I would shoot my officers before I would shoot real people. but if it was just hippies?
    That thought was in the back of my mind. I think Joe Sixpack tired of being overtaxed and kicked around, and Sally Soccermom would have support from our fighting men and women. I'm more than certain that a bunch of hippies would be red misted.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    depends on the citizens.


    i mean... yeah, of course I would shoot my officers before I would shoot real people. but if it was just hippies?

    Well sure.... I mean they're just hippies, it's not like they were real people.....


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    Re: Guns

    that is my all time favorite episode.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    After two insurgent/asymetrical wars for experience, I have e feeling the US military would put up a bit more resistence than Algiers.... let's hope it never comes to that.
    It would be an occupation. They would require patrols. Any figure of authority becomes a target. Occupation of the United States would be near impossible because of the size of the nation. Every city and town would be shooting galleries for anyone putting up resistance. Drive by shootings of any beat cop, snipers, road side bombs, bridges blown up, vehicle sabotage, and the list goes on. Algeirs was difficult because they didn't understand what was going on. Here it is difficult because the civillian population doesn't have to kill the authority figures to get guns. We already got them. Not that that scares any politician, but it certainly shows it as an impossibility to occupy this nation.

    Of course the only option to occupy the nation would be to kill everyone. Mass airstrikes etc. I really don't see that being a viable option. I don't see a pilot willingly dropping a bomb on US Citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    It would be an occupation. They would require patrols. Any figure of authority becomes a target. Occupation of the United States would be near impossible because of the size of the nation. Every city and town would be shooting galleries for anyone putting up resistance. Drive by shootings of any beat cop, snipers, road side bombs, bridges blown up, vehicle sabotage, and the list goes on. Algeirs was difficult because they didn't understand what was going on. Here it is difficult because the civillian population doesn't have to kill the authority figures to get guns. We already got them. Not that that scares any politician, but it certainly shows it as an impossibility to occupy this nation.

    Of course the only option to occupy the nation would be to kill everyone. Mass airstrikes etc. I really don't see that being a viable option. I don't see a pilot willingly dropping a bomb on US Citizens.
    Even then, an Air Force commander would probably feel compelled to tell the politician ordering a strike that "If we blow the roads away, there won't be much we can do to evac you away from the people we didn't get".
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what exactly is your agenda on these gun threads. You show up and pretend that people really don't need guns. WTF cares? If you don't want a gun don't carry one or own one but your constant litany about "fear" etc is silly. and claiming people have religious attachments to weapons is just left wing psychobable
    So, discussion is against the rules? You either tow the TD line or you have an agenda? Odd way of thinking you have.


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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    In the unlikely event that our country was invaded, fighting back with small arms and improvised explosive devices might make them go away eventually---it worked for the Iraqis.
    Do you really think no one would be able to get such in that situation? Our army would just fall aside, with no one having access or getting any of those weapons?

    Seriously, having your small arms is meaningless. I'm just saying, the mythology doesn't add up any more.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I think I need to dig out Red Dawn ...

    It's an unrealisitc one star movie. Why would any thinking person dig that out? Kind of like thinking the show 24 tells you all you need to know about torture. Silly.



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