View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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Thread: Guns

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    I have never heard ".308 NATO" either. I am not a "gun guy" but after 26 years of active duty, I have been around my safe of them.

    My post was a fact/knowledge post that was not directed at any specific person.
    308 nato AKA 762 NATO. 308 IS THE inch pattern 762 is metric. 308 Winchester is seen as interchangeable with the NATO caliber by SAAMI though there is some difference

    its like 223 vs 5.56 MM. YOu can shoot 223 in a NATO chamber with a minute loss in accuracy but NATO Spec in a 223 can cause problems. of course you can also use a "wylde" chamber which shoots both well

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Don't even have to show one. Again, the mind is the greatest wepaon, and if you can't defend yourself without a weapon, you can't with one.

    As for what I meant, how many robbies have you been present at?

    And no one said I was against it. I merely said the fear is overplayed. And that we have some religuious attachment to weapons.
    what exactly is your agenda on these gun threads. You show up and pretend that people really don't need guns. WTF cares? If you don't want a gun don't carry one or own one but your constant litany about "fear" etc is silly. and claiming people have religious attachments to weapons is just left wing psychobable

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The average citizen simply cannot match their fire power. It can't be done. We don't live in the world that is depicted in the Patriot.

    a well placed bullet can kill anyone who has ever lived. If the government becomes oppressive you kill those who run it. That is the way to deal with that problem

    you apparently watched this movie scene too many times


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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, not the same situation, time, place or likely to work here. You first have to have a country invaded, without our army fighting, and with only your hunting rifles. Do you really see that?
    In the unlikely event that our country was invaded, fighting back with small arms and improvised explosive devices might make them go away eventually---it worked for the Iraqis.

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    Re: Guns

    I think I need to dig out Red Dawn ...
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    In the unlikely event that our country was invaded, fighting back with small arms and improvised explosive devices might make them go away eventually---it worked for the Iraqis.
    Japan's greatest military mind in WWII advised against invading the USA because "there would be behind every blade of grass a rifle"

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I think I need to dig out Red Dawn ...

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    Sukarno had no support from anyone. The Dutch had vastly superior weapons. True, the Indonesians had captured Japanise weapons, but little ammo and no real framework for resupply.

    I agree that it has a very low chance of success, but with no means to resist there is zero chance.
    Low chance? Constant armed resistance is not low chance of success. It worked in Algeirs. Who says it wouldn't work here?
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Low chance? Constant armed resistance is not low chance of success. It worked in Algeirs. Who says it wouldn't work here?

    After two insurgent/asymetrical wars for experience, I have e feeling the US military would put up a bit more resistence than Algiers.... let's hope it never comes to that.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    After two insurgent/asymetrical wars for experience, I have e feeling the US military would put up a bit more resistence than Algiers.... let's hope it never comes to that.
    I've seen it postulated before that many in the military would refuse the orders to shoot citizens simply because they are sworn to uphold the constitution. Don't know how true that is and hope we never find out.
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