View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

Voters
98. You may not vote on this poll
  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
Page 56 of 128 FirstFirst ... 646545556575866106 ... LastLast
Results 551 to 560 of 1275

Thread: Guns

  1. #551
    Sage
    MoSurveyor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Seen
    04-13-17 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    9,985

    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Putting people in jail for merely owning something is tyrannical and disgusting and violates the constitution and again you prove how little you know-more bullets does not necessarily mean more lethal

    if that were true we'd hunt elephants, lions and bears with 50 shot 22 caliber rifles rather than double barrelled 458 magnums and our soldiers would be issued machine guns with the same 22 ammo since you can carry 1000 rounds of 22 far more easily than 200 rounds of 308 NATO
    Like I said, my background is basic hunting and common "sporting" arms - or whatever you want to call them - like AK-47's and Uzi's. My friends don't typically jet to Kenya for hunting expeditions, usually the Ozarks provide plenty of entertainment for them. I didn't realize this discussion was limited to millionaires and gun enthusiasts. I thought a more common viewpoint unspoiled by fanaticism might be welcome - and apparently I was wrong. Well, it should't surprise me that a self-reported Rich Boy would be uninterested in anything past the end of this nose.


    Ed:
    I guess I am behind the times. Last I checked NATO rounds were 7.62mm - but that was years ago.
    Last edited by MoSurveyor; 03-05-12 at 09:18 AM.
    Mt. Rushmore: Three surveyors and some other guy.
    Life goes on within you and without you. -Harrison
    Hear the echoes of the centuries, Power isn't all that money buys. -Peart
    After you learn quantum mechanics you're never really the same again. -Weinberg

  2. #552
    Educator
    Chiefgator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Lake Jem, FL pop:35
    Last Seen
    05-08-15 @ 08:21 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    1,172

    Re: Guns

    7.62mm = .308 in

    Although not identical, the 7.62◊51mm NATO and the commercial .308 Winchester cartridges are similar. And even though the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI) considers it safe (by not listing it) to fire the NATO round in weapons chambered for the commercial round, there is significant discussion about compatible chamber and muzzle pressures between the two cartridges based on powder loads and wall thicknesses on the military vs. commercial rounds. [4]
    7.62◊51mm NATO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    As a dreamer of dreams and a travellin' man, I have chalked up many a mile.
    Read dozens of books about heroes and crooks and I've learned much from both of their styles!

  3. #553
    Sage
    MoSurveyor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Seen
    04-13-17 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    9,985

    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    7.62mm = .308 in

    Although not identical, the 7.62◊51mm NATO and the commercial .308 Winchester cartridges are similar. And even though the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI) considers it safe (by not listing it) to fire the NATO round in weapons chambered for the commercial round, there is significant discussion about compatible chamber and muzzle pressures between the two cartridges based on powder loads and wall thicknesses on the military vs. commercial rounds. [4]
    7.62◊51mm NATO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That would seem to imply there has been no change in designation and that "308 NATO" is a misnomer, which is kinda' what I was getting at. Unless you're saying that refers specifically to the commercial versions as some kind of slang.
    Last edited by MoSurveyor; 03-05-12 at 10:28 AM.
    Mt. Rushmore: Three surveyors and some other guy.
    Life goes on within you and without you. -Harrison
    Hear the echoes of the centuries, Power isn't all that money buys. -Peart
    After you learn quantum mechanics you're never really the same again. -Weinberg

  4. #554
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    United States
    Last Seen
    01-21-16 @ 12:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    51,124

    Re: Guns

    Folks have lost touch with the need and utility of the militia because, thankfully, we haven't been invaded.

    The National Guard is not big enough to repel an invasion, and the regular Army takes time to mobilize. Armed private citizens are very much a vital piece of homeland security.

  5. #555
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    The greatest city on Earth
    Last Seen
    08-04-12 @ 04:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    31,089

    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Look them up. These are cases where the government KILLED people who were standing up for their rights....
    something tells me, that's not exactly true.

  6. #556
    Sage
    MoSurveyor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Seen
    04-13-17 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    9,985

    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Folks have lost touch with the need and utility of the militia because, thankfully, we haven't been invaded.

    The National Guard is not big enough to repel an invasion, and the regular Army takes time to mobilize. Armed private citizens are very much a vital piece of homeland security.
    Personally, I kind of like Switzerland's idea. I think it would be good for most American adults to go through required training around the age of 18 and be part of a part-time unit for a couple of years. Requiring firearm ownership past that time is a different story but at least most people would have a smidgen of military training including firearms.
    Mt. Rushmore: Three surveyors and some other guy.
    Life goes on within you and without you. -Harrison
    Hear the echoes of the centuries, Power isn't all that money buys. -Peart
    After you learn quantum mechanics you're never really the same again. -Weinberg

  7. #557
    Sage
    MoSurveyor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Seen
    04-13-17 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    9,985

    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    something tells me, that's not exactly true.
    Try Kent State 1970.
    Mt. Rushmore: Three surveyors and some other guy.
    Life goes on within you and without you. -Harrison
    Hear the echoes of the centuries, Power isn't all that money buys. -Peart
    After you learn quantum mechanics you're never really the same again. -Weinberg

  8. #558
    Educator
    taxigirl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Madison, WI
    Last Seen
    10-21-16 @ 06:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    1,205

    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    something tells me, that's not exactly true.
    I'll make it easy for you:
    Randy Weaver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Be careful how you read it has many twists
    MOVE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Here the government ended up destroying over 60 houses in PA
    AIM Press Conference - 6 december 1999
    Wounded Knee incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (not the massacre)

    Do you need more or do you trust yet that I am not making things up.

    Seriously, Weavers wife was shot and killed in the doorway of their home while holding an infant. This is because Weaver was a separatist and the gov't thought they could use him to get in with more nefarious folks. Weaver did nothing wrong other than forget to submit a change of address notice to the court. The US Government ended up paying out to his family for their "errors"

    The MOVE folks were the cause of the "WACO" incident of the 1980's
    Mayor W. Wilson Goode soon appointed an investigative commission called the PSIC or MOVE commission. It issued its report on March 6, 1986. The report denounced the actions of the city government, stating that "Dropping a bomb on an occupied row house was unconscionable."[13] No one from the city government was charged criminally.

    In a 1996 civil suit in US federal court, a jury ordered the City of Philadelphia to pay $1.5 million to a survivor and relatives of two people killed in the incident. The jury found that the city used excessive force and violated the members' constitutional protection against unreasonable search and seizure.[12] Philadelphia was given the sobriquet "The City that Bombed Itself."[
    MOVE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Thunder-- it is all there. The government sometimes does come after you, regardless of being paranoid or not.
    Last edited by taxigirl; 03-05-12 at 11:08 AM.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
    --Randolph J. Dworkin

    ďReading makes a full man, meditation a profound man, discourse a clear man.Ē
    -- Ben Franklin

    "It has been said that something as small as the flutter of a butterfly's wing can ultimately cause a typhoon halfway around the world"
    -- Chaos Theory

  9. #559
    Sage
    lizzie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    between two worlds
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,581

    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Do you need more or do you trust yet that I am not making things up.
    Personally, I wouldn't go to the trouble of presenting evidence which will just be ignored.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
    -C G Jung

  10. #560
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    United States
    Last Seen
    01-21-16 @ 12:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    51,124

    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Personally, I kind of like Switzerland's idea. I think it would be good for most American adults to go through required training around the age of 18 and be part of a part-time unit for a couple of years. Requiring firearm ownership past that time is a different story but at least most people would have a smidgen of military training including firearms.
    ...and not just requiring any firearm, but the kind of assult rifle which is banned in America, featuring burst settings.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •