View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

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    In college did they teach you about the debate fallacy known as Argumentum ad populum?

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    those students for the most part were not heroes.
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    Re: Guns

    That Was Awesome

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no, our modern-day private armies of right-wing extremists, that you call "militias", have never been called up by the government to fulfill their Constitutional role, to defend the nation and suppress insurrections.
    so? neither had the militia members who stood at Concord and Lexington.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    folks who have nothing to hide, have nothing to fear.
    This is the THIRD time I have posted this. Will you ignore it again as it Proves that your above hypothesis is bull?

    If you don't know anything about the following incidents I will be happy to educate you.

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    I have to agree with Goshin on this one.

    McVeigh's response, as unfortunate as it was, was intended as a message against the government who had gone after Ruby Ridge and Waco.
    If you think Americans should not worry about their government coming for them...

    Everyone thought Randy Weaver was paranoid, but they came for him.

    Frank Clearwater and Buddy Lamont

    Fred Hampton and Mark Clark

    Kent State

    Molly Maguires

    Whiskey Rebellion

    MOVE

    etc...

    The United States government in no way has its hands clean when it comes to going after people who dared to speak against it. This goes for Federal , State and local entities.
    They will come and they will kill you if they do not like you. Of the above list Randy Weaver was the only one who was paranoid, and they did come for him.


    As for your arguments about the miltia you keep ignoring the court cases I cited earlier.
    Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority in Heller, stated:

    Nowhere else in the Constitution does a “right” attributed to “the people” refer to anything other than an individual right. What is more, in all six other provisions of the Constitution that mention “the people,” the term unambiguously refers to all members of the political community, not an unspecified subset. This contrasts markedly with the phrase “the militia” in the prefatory clause. As we will describe below, the “militia” in colonial America consisted of a subset of “the people”— those who were male, able bodied, and within a certain age range. Reading the Second Amendment as protecting only the right to “keep and bear Arms” in an organized militia therefore fits poorly with the operative clause’s description of the holder of that right as “the people”.[115]
    District of Columbia v. Heller 2008

    Get it yet?

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didn’t have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, I’m allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and I’ve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I don’t, before you know it, you won’t let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post

    as far as I am concerned, these private armies, that you call Militias, are illegal.

    you're welcome.
    Fortunately, your wishes and your opinion don't much matter in this case.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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    Re: Guns

    I dont got any problem with the current system. Maybe shorter waiting periods, and perhaps give automatic guns to people of a certain age with no criminal record.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Fortunately, your wishes and your opinion don't much matter in this case.
    wishes & opinions my ass.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    ....They will come and they will kill you if they do not like you. Of the above list Randy Weaver was the only one who was paranoid, and they did come for him?....
    what in God's name are you trying to pull? maybe you should post this crap in the Conspiracy Theory section.


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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    so? neither had the militia members who stood at Concord and Lexington.
    The Battle of Lexington & Concord......1775.

    The United States Constitution....1787.

    The 2nd Militia Act....1792.

    I think you are going backwards, friend. But keep it up...its funny.


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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    wishes & opinions my ass.
    "As far as I am concerned" is an opinion, not a fact.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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