View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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Thread: Guns

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    tell that to Article 1 Section 8 of the United States Constitution.

    tell that to the Militia Act of 1792, made law AFTER the 2nd Amendment was passed.
    Read the CASE LAW.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didn’t have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, I’m allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and I’ve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I don’t, before you know it, you won’t let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Ok, then what does make you "mentally unfit" to own a gun?
    having been institutionalized by a judge. And according to some folks here, being found mentally unfit by the Armed Forces also effects your ability to own a firearm.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    read the case law.
    read the Constitution.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    That is correct. I think people have a flawed interpretation of what the intended militia was. Modern militias are protected as long as they conform to U.S. federal and state law, but they are private militias comprised of the general militia populace. The National Guard is a state militia likewise comprised of the general populace but required to follow the U.S.M.C.J.

    The most basic definition of the militia is all able bodied males 18-45, Article 1 Section 8 provides for the state to provide officers for discipline and training of such which is applicable to times of martial law under either a general civilian draft or deputization. Under those specific circumstances civilians called up for police and military action would be directly under the supervision of the local officer in charge of that specific division. This is the most accurate definition of the militia at large.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    read the Constitution.
    Thunder,
    from reading your posts since I have been on DP I can that you are intelligent enough to know that when SCOTUS hears and rules on a case, that ruling becomes the standard.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didn’t have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, I’m allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and I’ve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I don’t, before you know it, you won’t let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Guns

    Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States, and the Militia Act of 1792, CLEARLY spells out how The Militia is to be run, organized, supervised, trained, and operated.

    its in plain English. There is no ambiguity. The Militia is run by the government, to assist the government in defending the nation and putting down insurrections.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Thunder,
    from reading your posts since I have been on DP I can that you are intelligent enough to know that when SCOTUS hears and rules on a case, that ruling becomes the standard.
    suggesting that a 5 to 4 ruling on gun laws makes the SCOTUS unambiguously on one side of this issue, is silly & ignorant.

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    ...If "The" miltia was irrelevant, SCOTUS would have determined so.
    Last edited by Thunder; 03-04-12 at 01:20 AM.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States, and the Militia Act of 1792, CLEARLY spells out how The Militia is to be run, organized, supervised, trained, and operated.

    its in plain English. There is no ambiguity. The Militia is run by the government, to assist the government in defending the nation and putting down insurrections.
    Yes it does, and unfortunately you read it wrong.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Yes it does, and unfortunately you read it wrong.
    how am I wrong?

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and WE want to make sure that the only folks who possess guns, are ones who have a legal right to do so.
    All free Americans have this right.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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