View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't see how he could have been shot, seeing as how there's a law against shooting heads of state. Perhaps the Left shold pass a law requiring everyone to follow the law, and then pass another law telling people they have to follow the law telling them to follow laws, and then pass another law telling people they have to follow the law telling them to follow the law which tells them to follow laws, and then pass another law.....
    we could pass a law forbiding schizophrenics from owning a firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    hmm.. I would suggest it is irrelevant - the amendment reserves the right to the people. Mind you, the Founders didn't exactly draw big thick separating lines between those two categories:
    "I ask sir, what is the Militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
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    A sufficient mass of independent, armed citizens is the final and ultimately the only defense against threats from abroad, domestic threats at home, and threats from our own government.

    Some interesting recent research trying to pin down the actual amount of defensive gun usage

    Turtle: I steadfastly opposed class envy until you posted that list of firearms. In the interest of fairness, I must now insist that you redistribute your shooting experiences in my direction by taking me to the range next time with you.
    I looked at the sites you listed (one wouldn't come up). Sorry, I'm an engineer so I have a hard time with stuff that is not quantitative. In my one experience with having someone point a loaded gun at me after I caught him doing a property crime to our home, my having a gun would have resulted in a very unfortunate outcome. I probably would have ended up in jail for a long time. I had to talk to him (I was actually looking for an opportunity to kill him with his own gun.) This gave the police time to arrive and catch him pointing the gun at me. There were no police, then, in an instant, he had 3 of them pointing their pistols at him in a very coordinated response to a phone call. He went to jail. I actually met him about 2 years later at the counter of an auto parts store a few years later. He was very contrite.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we could pass a law forbiding schizophrenics from owning a firearm.
    How? I know one. There is no public record of his schizophrenia. On meds he is perfectly normal. So, again, how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    How? I know one. There is no public record of his schizophrenia. On meds he is perfectly normal. So, again, how?
    define "normal".

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    what is the "2nd Amenment Militia"?
    When the 2nd amendment was written it was obvious and they have been described by others here.
    Now we need an official militias and we don't have them; but, we could and we could keep our guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    When the 2nd amendment was written it was obvious and it has been described by others here. Now we need an official militias and we don't have them; but, we could and we could keep our guns.
    we don't need a Militia again. The National Guard fulfills its purpose just fine. They are a reserve unit that can be and has been called up in times of crisis & unrest...which is the Constitutional purpose of the Militia.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we could pass a law forbiding schizophrenics from owning a firearm.
    There were systems in place that should have prevented Loughner. The system(s) failed.

    One good citizen did more than community agencies. Loughner was turned away from buying ammo from one Wal Mart because the guy at the gun counter said Loughner was acting strange. That's rather significant considering how difficult it would be to single one person out in a Wal Mart as exhibiting strange behavior. That Wal Mart refused to sell him bullets. Kudos to them.

    The systems (laws, procedures and policies) that should have identified Loughner failed. The NICS did NOT fail. Loughner's behavior at Pima Community College was so bazaar that the school declared him persona non grata as it feared he would be a danger to himself and others. The US Army refused Loughner's enlistment because Loughner informed them he was addicted to pot. When Sportsman's Warehouse ran Loungher's ATF 4473 it came back clear. It shouldn't have.










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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    ...The US Army refused Loughner's enlistment because Loughner informed them he was addicted to pot. When Sportsman's Warehouse ran Loungher's ATF 4473 it came back clear. It shouldn't have.
    please explain.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    45??? Age discrimination, I say!!!!
    When you consider 23 was middle aged back then it would likely be older if they wrote it today.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    define "normal".
    No one knows he is anything but a typical male person unless they are told. So in this case normal means no one can tell he has any mental issue when he is on his meds.

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