View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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Thread: Guns

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Is it hard to keep your glass house smudge and fingerprint free?
    are you going to explain why you think I'm being a hypocrite in this thread, or just keep on trying to provoke me?

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the best thing to keep politicians in line is them knowing if they rape the rights of the righteous, an honest patriot might kill them
    I'm sure that's what some assassin will tell the judge, after he murders a politician he feels has wronged him somehow. "I'm just fightin' fur liberty, yer honor".

    maybe Jared Laughner can use that during his trial. I bet Tim McVeigh did, as did Mumia Abu-Jamal.
    Last edited by Thunder; 03-03-12 at 12:33 AM.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    PM me with anything you need to know.
    Or me-name it I most likely I have owned it, or shot it extensively

    These include

    Walther PPK PP, PPKS

    SIg Sauer P220, P226, P 228, P229, P239, P238

    Every variation of the Beretta 92 from the Uber rare Billenium to the Brigadier, 84, 85

    Glock 17, 19, 21, 22, 23, 26, 17L, 34

    HK USP, P-30, 2000

    Browning HP,

    Star 30

    SW Gen I, 2, 3 and three 59 style, MP in 45, 40, 9 MP compact 9, most of the revolvers
    J frame, K frame L frame N frame from 22-44 Mag

    SA XD 9 and 40

    dozens of different 1911 style guns-Kimbers, Wilson Les Baer, Craig Custom, Colt, Randall (that's one you don't see much these days) Rock River (another rare one), Sig, Remington

    Russian Makarov

    Egyptian Helwan (Copy of the old 1951 Beretta Brigadier)

    French MAS

    Most of the various low circulation Italian Jobs like the Bernadelli

    Ruger P9 P85 etc

    that's without looking at my notes.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I'm sure that's what some assassin will tell the judge, after he murders a politician he feels has wronged him somehow. "I'm just fightin' for liberty, you're honor".

    maybe Jared Laughner can use that during his trial. I bet Tim McVeigh did.
    If patriots and other honest citizens are willing to do that, I doubt we are still dealing with established courts of law

    its the SHTF scenario

    But Hughey Long is a good lesson for statist thugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If patriots and other honest citizens are willing to do that, I doubt we are still dealing with established courts of law

    its the SHTF scenario

    But Hughey Long is a good lesson for statist thugs
    Tim McVeigh, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Jared Laughner, The Weathermen, The Black Panthers, FALN, all thought they were fighting injustice....by killing American law enforcement & politicians. Heroes of yours?

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    FOr those of you that want no guns at all or long wait periods etc explain to me how you are helping law abiding citizens?

    Banning guns or making it hard to get them does nothing but takes the guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens while the criminals keep theirs, you basically punish and endanger good citizens while you empower criminals. Ill never understand how anybody thinks it will help/be better. Please explain your logic if you think this way.
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    nobody has an answer for this? nobody want to even try? I wonder why.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Or me-name it I most likely I have owned it, or shot it extensively

    These include

    Walther PPK PP, PPKS

    SIg Sauer P220, P226, P 228, P229, P239, P238

    Every variation of the Beretta 92 from the Uber rare Billenium to the Brigadier, 84, 85

    Glock 17, 19, 21, 22, 23, 26, 17L, 34

    HK USP, P-30, 2000

    Browning HP,

    Star 30

    SW Gen I, 2, 3 and three 59 style, MP in 45, 40, 9 MP compact 9, most of the revolvers
    J frame, K frame L frame N frame from 22-44 Mag

    SA XD 9 and 40

    dozens of different 1911 style guns-Kimbers, Wilson Les Baer, Craig Custom, Colt, Randall (that's one you don't see much these days) Rock River (another rare one), Sig, Remington

    Russian Makarov

    Egyptian Helwan (Copy of the old 1951 Beretta Brigadier)

    French MAS

    Most of the various low circulation Italian Jobs like the Bernadelli

    Ruger P9 P85 etc

    that's without looking at my notes.

    Well, no argument there... Turtle owns guns I've never even heard of.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Well, no argument there... Turtle owns guns I've never even heard of.
    reminds me of the scene from Terminator, where he asks for a "plasma rifle". Gun dealer says "hey, just what you see on the wall ok buddy?"


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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I'm sure that's what some assassin will tell the judge, after he murders a politician he feels has wronged him somehow. "I'm just fightin' fur liberty, yer honor".

    maybe Jared Laughner can use that during his trial. I bet Tim McVeigh did, as did Mumia Abu-Jamal.

    Well, I'm going to tell ya something...

    I don't approve of what McVeigh did, but I understand why he did it: revenge for what Reno and the Feds did to all those men women and children at Waco.

    I'm not saying it was right... but it was a message and a wakeup call that there are consequences to things like Waco.

    It is a hard thing to consider, but in a free society when the gov't pushes further than it should, it may well get pushed back.


    Those who do that pushing may be labeled outlaws and terrorists and may well deserve the label they are put to death under.... but for whatever reason the Feds haven't pulled any more Wacos in a while, have they?


    Again, I'm not saying I approve or that I would have done any such thing.... I'm just saying that actions have consequences.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Well, I'm going to tell ya something...

    I don't approve of what McVeigh did, but I understand why he did it: revenge for what Reno and the Feds did to all those men women and children at Waco.

    I'm not saying it was right... but it was a message and a wakeup call that there are consequences to things like Waco.

    It is a hard thing to consider, but in a free society when the gov't pushes further than it should, it may well get pushed back.


    Those who do that pushing may be labeled outlaws and terrorists and may well deserve the label they are put to death under.... but for whatever reason the Feds haven't pulled any more Wacos in a while, have they?

    Again, I'm not saying I approve or that I would have done any such thing.... I'm just saying that actions have consequences.
    yes, and some day, some lone-wolf revolutionary, or a conspiracy of revolutionaries, is gonna kill another politician, or blow up another Federal building, or detonate a subway car or bus, in order to fight "injustice".

    and he is likely to use the exact same rationale that you uttered. "I was only fighting fur liberty n' freedom, cause' the government dun pushed too far"

    I'm sure it will be a wonderful consolation, to the hundreds of families, who lost innocent loves ones, to know that their child, or husband, or wife, died as a martyr "fur freedom".
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