View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Wisconsin just passed its open carry law and we've already seen one instance where vigilante justice was carried out in a grocery store. In a nutshell, two robbers entered the store, one was armed and the other was not. A man carrying a gun shot the armed robber and stopped it from happening.

    Now don't get me wrong, hooray for the trigger happy customer. However, lets say he missed and shot the innocent bystander behind the robber. I know its a serious stretch here, but he WAS in a grocery opening fire. I just don't get the whole argument that "the more guns the better" (hocks a loogey ina spitoon)
    Good for wisconsin. As for the armed robbery, anyone who owns a gun most likely knows how to use it correctly. Be sure of your target and beyond. Again MOST LIKELY. This incident should be an example to future incidents. Im sure the next time someone thinks about armed robbery in wisconsin they'll think twice.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    What do you think about gun control? Poll speaks for its self.
    The poll doesn't really represent my ideas when it comes to gun control.

    I think that firearms that are used primarily for hunting and that are difficult to conceal - rifles, shotguns, and other long arms should have rather low restrictions. Handguns, on the other hand, should be regulated locally.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Handguns, on the other hand, should be regulated locally.
    Because a rape victim won't need the abortion your party wants to provide at tax-payer expence and thuse need to rely on the governement and vote Democrat, if she just shoots the rapist dead.

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    Re: Guns

    I understand Conservative concerns about the second amendment and what constitutes infringement of those second amendement rights. But in my view while I don't believe within a relatively lose interpertation of the constitution there should be a complete ban on guns I also don't believe that handing out high powered assault rifles like candy to people who probably really shouldn't have them is a great idea either.

    Backround checks and mandatory waiting periods are just fine with me and I don't lose any sleep over it.

    The second amendement was adopted in 1791 and I don't believe the people at the time who adopted it had this vision in their head of a bunch of hillbillies in a dodge durango with russian made AK-47's thinking they're going to overthrow the government that has Apache helicopters.

    Having a gun in ones home is sometimes nessecary yes, and in the future is something I would consider if I lived in an area I believe warranted it. A person who owns a gun in their home, can save their family from a potentially dangerous person who intends grevious harm upon their families.

    I know if it was me I'd shoot the son of a bitch without hesitation if he went anywhere near my 7 year old sisters room that's for sure.

    But there's also a big distinction I find with people that say that mass gun ownership makes public spaces safer. I don't believe this is entirely true, although in some cases it has been the case. But if you think it is 100% true you should go ask the Somalians what 100% gun ownership looks like.

    In World War 2 a study found that only 15-20% of soldiers would actually fire on enemy troops on site, while this number increased during more intense combat situations, it does show that people have an innate hesitation when it comes to killing another human being. People who talk candidly about being able to pull the trigger (me included two passages ago) are like virgins talking about sex in my opinion, and yeah I'm willing to take a shot at myself here.

    Most of the time a spree shooter kills themselves, or is killed by law enforcement.

    Legally bought guns are used in crimes.

    And quite frankly the idea that having mandatory waiting periods and backround checks to buy extremely effective and lethal weapons is a bad idea is simply beyond my comprehension. Yes I understand you can make the case that you don't have to get a backround check to own a knife, or a hatchet, or a gone damn nail file, it's extremely difficult to kill large amounts of people with those weapons. With guns it is not the case, especially with high powered assault rifles.

    Making sure that while it's not impossible (because of criminals), we make it has hard as humanly possible for the mentally ill guy breaking into my house trying to rape my sisters to not have a gun, and I do.

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    Most states have only a background check that is done on site when purchasing. In New Jersey it is a pain in the ass. You have to go to the police station, fill out a lengthy form, get finger printed, then wait for a firearms purchasing id to come in the mail that could take up to a month. When purchasing a handgun you do the same thing. I don't understand why a background check on site to make sure the person is clean. I feel that is plenty and no waiting period is necessary.

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    Re: Guns

    Among all stupid liberal stances, gun control is among the worst. Give everyone, upon a successful background check, a firearm if they want. The truth is that anyone can get a gun if they truly desired, and that gun control only takes guns away from those who would use it responsibly.

    The biggest argument for this would be OnWisconsin's story in this thread. He sounds like the guy who supports the ongoings at Virginia Tech.

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    Re: Guns

    Guns stop alot of crime but don't expect to ever hear about that on the evening news. Years ago my wife was driving home late one night and had a flat. Some guy pulled over and offered to help. She said no thanks my husband will come looking for me soon. He insisted she roll the window down and kept harassing her until she pointed her little 22 pistol in his face. He drove away.

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    Re: Guns

    We need transparent polls. I'd like to know what idiot voted for no guns at all.

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    Re: Guns

    I voted to let everyone have a gun, but I need to add qualifiers. Let all legal citizens (civilians who are not incarcerated) buy guys unfettered.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    What do you think about gun control? Poll speaks for its self.
    The constitution says that the people have the right to keep and bear arms without any infringements.So that means every citizen should be allowed to walk into a store and purchase a firearm of their choice and carry this firearm with them where ever they go without any waiting periods,back ground checks,registrations or permits/licenses. Someone who has served their time in prison should have their full rights restored to them once they get of out of prison.If they can't be trusted with their full rights then they shouldn't be let out in the first place.
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