View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Don't forget glocks suck. =) Proud old school 1911 .45 acp owner here.
    the older glocks were goodmthe newer ones had problems because glock thoughtn plastic on plastic was a good idea on slides vs stel on plastic,as well as paper thin barrels vs their older moderate thickness barrerls.the morale is before i joined the army cops were throwing away glocks faster than they got them because the wo problems i mentioned made them unfirable.i dont know about brand new glocks but around 5 years ago they were complete junk from just 2 design flaws!!!

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Liz, I agree and disagree. First, in the U.S. we must come to some sort of expectation of what we'd like to prisons to accomplish. I don't believe that Americans agree and I don't think we have enough information. I would agree that no one should want to go to prison and certainly no one should want to return to prison. Can we agree that in America that concept ain't working? Why or why not is a separate issue. Can we agree that what we are doing doesn't work - IF, our goal is to deter people from committing crimes that would result in incarceration and also to greatly decrease the rate of recidivism?
    Sure we can agree, but ex-cons should not be carrying around an unpaid debt for the rest of their lives. If they have paid their debt, then it should be considered paid- completely. Alot of ex-cons can't get a decent job, and are never trusted again for their entire lives. This is a failure of the justice system, and imo, a grave failure affecting those who have done their time. Don't get me wrong- I'm a justice-minded person. I support the death penalty and hard time for hard crime, but what we are doing is obviously not working, either for law-abiding citizens or for the ex-cons.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Don't forget glocks suck. =) Proud old school 1911 .45 acp owner here.
    What would you recommend other that a Glock 17 if you say they suck what would be better to use?
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Not a gun owner and never even shot one. Am writing a mystery novel and it what does anyone think of a Glock 17 9mm with the seventeen shot clip. Any opinions or advice on this weapon would be appreciated. Thanks.

    Oh a female detective would be using it.
    Terminology, Katie. It's magazine not "clip". While seventeen shot magazine is not incorrect I think 17 round magazine is more common. Goshin is your best go to guy here for the most common and current terminology. It does change from time to time.










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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
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    Glock, Glock 17, Glock 19, Glock 34, Glock 17L, Glock pistol, Glock firearms, Glock Firearm, Glock handgun, Glock gun, Glock 26, Glock 9mm, Glock 9, Glock full, Glock compact, Glock sub compact, - glockworld.com


    Oh yeah.... it can be a royal PITA getting that 17th round to go in the magazine. Spring is really stiff at that point.... they make a special tool for forcing that 17th round into the mag.

    Lotta people just load 16 in the mag and one in the breech.
    Might there be a better gun for the detective to use.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    What would you recommend other that a Glock 17 if you say they suck what would be better to use?
    He doesn't mean it, he's just a 1911 guy. Some Beretta owners will give you a similar fanboy tongue in cheek statement.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Sure we can agree, but ex-cons should not be carrying around an unpaid debt for the rest of their lives. If they have paid their debt, then it should be considered paid- completely. Alot of ex-cons can't get a decent job, and are never trusted again for their entire lives. This is a failure of the justice system, and imo, a grave failure affecting those who have done their time. Don't get me wrong- I'm a justice-minded person. I support the death penalty and hard time for hard crime, but what we are doing is obviously not working, either for law-abiding citizens or for the ex-cons.


    good point but lets not forget so many prisons imprison criminals with no education but education inside some prisons is minimal.and ofcourse a criminal leaving prison with no where to go resorts to crime!thats how my cousin was,he kept getting into meth and requested to leave cali so he he wouldnt be near his old meth buddies,but the cali govt said no so he kept ending up wih the crowd he tried to avoid.after 15 years he found a judge who aproved his request and moved him to middle of nowhere religious right arizona,since then hes been clean,there he has the help and doesnt have his old temptations to throw him off course,pretty much a fresh start,whereas the court want him smack dab in the middle of meth ville where his problem started.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Terminology, Katie. It's magazine not "clip". While seventeen shot magazine is not incorrect I think 17 round magazine is more common. Goshin is your best go to guy here for the most common and current terminology. It does change from time to time.
    At this moment in time I am just looking for the weapon for this detective to use. This is my first attempt at a novel outside of a standard romance so i am somewhat out of my depth as yet. Only on chapter five with the last chapter and prologue and epilogue done.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    I needed to know whether a woman say 125 pounds small to medium frame would be able to handle that weapon with the longer clip or should i go to a standard clip. Even a different gun like the Glock 19?


    It would depend on the size of her hands. One thing some women hate about Glocks is the fat grip, due to the double-column magazine. Women with small hands often find them difficult; but this can usually be overcome with sufficient extra training. A 125 pound woman whose hands were of, say, slightly larger than average size would have no problems.

    Most women I know that shoot Glock 9mm find the weapons recoil and weight very manageable.

    The 19 is often the more popular choice, as it is a bit shorter (length and height) and therefore more concealable, but it is the same thickness with the same "fat grip".

    Hope that helped a bit...

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    Re: Guns

    If your character has small hands, she'd probably be a lot happier with a weapon with a slimmer grip, like the Kel-tec 9mm, or maybe that single-stack Glock (I forget model #)

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