View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    opinions concerning facts, aren't actually opinions.

    if someone says "in my opinion, the Earth is flat", they aren't actually stating an opinion, but a misconception of science.
    But as a personal view, that does count as an opinion.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    What a bunch of nuts we have here...
    "let everyone have a gun...implied no regulation".....33% !!
    Your so-called freedoms and liberties are more important than the welfare of society...
    And imagine if madmen such as I were to be a gun-owner.....freedoms and liberties....down the drain !
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    1) A rapist can be shot just as dead with a rifle or a shotgun as with a handgun.

    2) I'm pretty sure a woman carrying a rifle or a shotgun out in the open is much more of a deterrent than a woman who weas a handgun on the hip, especially if it is concealed.

    3) If there are that many rapes occurring in an area then the people can use referendum to change the law so they can carry handguns.
    I'm not sure what your position is but come on man. Do you expect people to just casually carry rifles and shotguns through the streets? And you say it yourself a rifle or shotgun can kill someone just as easily as a shotgun or rifle so why would anyone carry something bigger and heavier?

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    But as a personal view, that does count as an opinion.
    its a misuse of the term "opinion".

    true opinions, cannot be right or wrong. they are 100% subjective, and depend upon the personal views of the owner.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Generally speaking, long guns (rifles, shotguns) are better than handguns at almost everything, except certain specialized applications...

    1. Close-quarters combat
    2. Concealment
    3. Handiness, lightness, ease of carry and use.


    It's hard enough to get a woman to carry a little automatic, I sure don't see them lugging around shotguns and rifles to go shopping.
    My wife is a petite, sexy blonde, with enhancements...I can in no way see her handling a .22 rifle let alone any shotgun. Thus (as a nurse), she carries a 038 pistol, and a tazer....I am less worried, and don't need to worry about prison, as much.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its a misuse of the term "opinion".

    true opinions, cannot be right or wrong. they are 100% subjective, and depend upon the personal views of the owner.
    No, that's only one definition of an opinion. An opinion surely can be a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. However, it is also defined as a personal view, attitude, or appraisal. It can also mean a professional judgement as well. Opinions are rather subjective, but some could have statements which conflict with measured reality. Those are wrong opinions.
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    if every man, woman, and child in this country had a gun, there would be a ****load of dangerous folks with guns.

    clearly, we need some common sense regulations upon gun ownership and the ability to carry them.

    The problem with that phrase is some of you think it means crazy crap like useless waiting periods, perpetual licensing just to own, unreasonable legal hurdles and paperwork and abuseable requirements; removing someone's rights for minor mental issues like stress or minor PTSD, and similar crap....

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The problem with that phrase is some of you think it means crazy crap like useless waiting periods, perpetual licensing just to own, unreasonable legal hurdles and paperwork and abuseable requirements; removing someone's rights for minor mental issues like stress or minor PTSD, and similar crap....
    i see no need for waiting periods if background checks can be done within 30 minutes.

    taking away gun rights from folks who suffer from stress? is this a strawman?

    show me one person in the Northwestern hemisphere who has no stress.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    i see no need for waiting periods if background checks can be done within 30 minutes.

    taking away gun rights from folks who suffer from stress? is this a strawman?

    show me one person in the Northwestern hemisphere who has no stress.

    No strawman. We've had issues with veterans losing rights over PTSD, and heard people (wasn't that YOU?) call for all gun owners to submit to a mental-health test before being allowed to buy a gun.

    Problem with mental-health issues is it is somewhat subjective, not an exact science, and too easily abused by anti's.

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    Re: Guns

    My feelings on gun control can't be accurately summed up by those short statements.

    I believe that in order to purchase guns, one should have to be able to demonstrate that they know basic gun laws and safety rules. Once you demonstrate that, then it should be an easy process. Just an instant background check and off you go. The requirements to carry in public should be a bit stricter, and should involve proving basic proficiency with your weapon on a shooting range, and knowledge of laws on when it is and is not legal to use your weapon.
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