View Poll Results: What do you think gun control should be like?

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  • Let everyone have a gun

    26 26.53%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    28 28.57%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    12 12.24%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    19 19.39%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    5 5.10%
  • No guns at all

    8 8.16%
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    requiring an ID to vote, also hassles folks. yet many 2nd Amendment absolutists want to require the display of an ID to vote.
    If you don't have an ID then you also do not have a job nor drive.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    kinda puts things into perspective though, don't it?

    we can hassle honest citizens who just want to vote, but we can't hassle honest citizens who want to buy 30 guns a month?
    I was going to say something, but I bought 3 guns just this week, and I plan on buying a 4th tomorrow...maybe a 5th if I find a deal. :P

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If you don't have an ID then you also do not have a job nor drive.
    hey, if we can hassle honest citizens who just want to vote, then we can hassle honest citizens who want to buy 30 guns in one month. its only fair.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    kinda puts things into perspective though, don't it?

    we can hassle honest citizens who just want to vote, but we can't hassle honest citizens who want to buy 30 guns a month?
    You'd have an argument if someone didn't have to show an ID to buy a gun

    you are infringing on my right to obtain as many guns as I want. your analogy is stupid

    THunder-I have been dealing with anti gun nuts for 35 years. Some of those people just like to argue for the sake of arguing like you do, others were committed hard core gun hating activists who were nationally prominent

    you aren't going to come up with something I cannot address.

    you'd be better off arguing with the Pope over Catholic Doctrine

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so we shouldn't pass any laws since criminals ain't gonna follow them?



    "alright guys, its now legal to commit murder, since the criminals don't seem to read the state penal code".
    Not the point of the statement, but I suspect you KNOW what I am saying and are simply trying to avoid the point that you know is actually a good one.

    The point is of course that: gun laws that clearly have had no impact upon gun crime are clearly NOT the answer. They are merely laws enacted to excersise control. They have no point, since the criminals not only are not abiding by those laws, but they circumvent the most important gun laws we have, "No Felons, license for fully automatics, age restrictions, concealed licenses," and so what is the point of laws beyond these?

    There are none.

    Essentially it would be like saying: You cannot murder someone with a knife. Murder is already illegal. Why add extra charges because it was with a knife? Or a gun? Or with a frying pan?
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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    ...The point is of course that: gun laws that clearly have had no impact upon gun crime are clearly NOT the answer....
    no gun law can be honestly judged until its uniform around the country, or at least in a region of the country.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If you don't have an ID then you also do not have a job nor drive.
    I was in a stop and rob today after filling my car up-I was buying a half gallon of "true-Moo chocolate milk for my kid and some guy came in right behind me-he had pulled up to the pump I just left. He wants 30 bucks on pump 4 and he wants to buy some smokes. (I guessed he was around 18 but I couldnt tell); so the cashier asks for an ID and he says he doesn't have one. So she says How are you driving a car with out an ID

    he says forget it and storms off

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no gun law can be honestly judged until its uniform around the country, or at least in a region of the country.

    In other words lets impose idiocy on everyone to see if it works

    sorry, our rights are more important than making everyone equally NYC miserable

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    hey, if we can hassle honest citizens who just want to vote, then we can hassle honest citizens who want to buy 30 guns in one month. its only fair.
    I have no problem providing my ID when I buy a firearm.

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    Re: Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I was going to say something, but I bought 3 guns just this week, and I plan on buying a 4th tomorrow...maybe a 5th if I find a deal. :P
    If the causal reader is wondering:
    Gun #1 was a small .38 revolver for CCW where discretion is key;
    Gun #2 was a full-size Springfield .45 auto, which has replaced my piece-of-**** Glock 9mm (which I'm now selling) as my typical carry, not made for CCW but I carry it when I don't need to care if someone notices;
    Gun #3 was a youth-stock .22 bolt action beginners rifle I and my 11 y/o shot today;
    Gun #4 is going to be what Scheels Sporting Goods calls a "Cricket", which is an even smaller stock .22 bolt-action rife for my 8 y/o;
    Gun #5 might be a civilian version of my military issued M4 or M16.
    Last edited by Jerry; 03-10-12 at 12:28 AM.

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