View Poll Results: Who do you support for 2012?

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  • Mitt Romney

    2 6.06%
  • Rick Santorum

    0 0%
  • Newt Gingrich

    1 3.03%
  • Ron Paul

    13 39.39%
  • Barack Obama

    17 51.52%
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    Re: New Here

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier
    It is very interesting that Paul is as popular as he is but does as poorly as he does in the primaries. Mind blowing.
    Just look back at all the people who say something to the effect of, "I like Paul the best and would vote for him but he has no chance of winning so I'll support X." Seems to me like he doesn't get much support because everyone has been fooled into the concept of "throwing away your vote".

    Just shows the crock of $%^& that representative democracy really is.

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    Re: New Here

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Nice simple poll. Given your major concern I guess the Ron Paul is your only choice, but to have him be successful you'd have to roll back the calendar quite a few years. Then if you were black you'd be a slave, talk about being stripped of your rights.
    How would they be slaves again?

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    Re: New Here

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    Just look back at all the people who say something to the effect of, "I like Paul the best and would vote for him but he has no chance of winning so I'll support X." Seems to me like he doesn't get much support because everyone has been fooled into the concept of "throwing away your vote".

    Just shows the crock of $%^& that representative democracy really is.
    No, it just shows how shallow and uninformed the US is.
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    Re: New Here

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    No, it just shows how shallow and uninformed the US is.
    I'm not so sure. There's not much payoff in voting. The odds of a single individual vote actually making the difference between one candidate and another is virtually nil. The opportunity cost of performing the necessary research and due diligence on each candidate far exceeds the benefits received. Unless of course you benefit directly from specific legislation which you have influence in getting passed... But this is another matter entirely.

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    Re: New Here

    In another post, I stated I would vote for Ron Paul if he runs as an independent or Libertarian. I vote for Obama if Paul runs as a Republican.

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    Re: New Here

    I was leaning toward Paul until he said he didn't care if Iran got nukes, that was it for me.

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    Re: New Here

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    Just look back at all the people who say something to the effect of, "I like Paul the best and would vote for him but he has no chance of winning so I'll support X." Seems to me like he doesn't get much support because everyone has been fooled into the concept of "throwing away your vote".

    Just shows the crock of $%^& that representative democracy really is.
    Whenever I hear that tripe I'm reminded that I see more Ron Paul signs than anyone else's, that he wins most polls for debates and in voting polls even when he places 2nd the media don't even mention him, and by the Douglass Adams quote, "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."

    The system, the media, and those who support the system spew that tripe, or make appeals to ridicule him but never actually explain how he is wrong about anything, they just misrepresent his positions (non-interventionism) and attack their easy straw men (isolationism, alleged weakness on foreign policy for opposing useless foreign bases, the infamous Ron Paul newsletter.)

    How anyone could support such phony candidates merely because they "can win" makes me resent the civics of so many of my countrymen.
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    Re: New Here

    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    Why are you talking about issues from many years ago? It is 2012 not the 1960's and 70's. African Americans have the same opportunities as everyone else if not more. And when I say more I am talking about the demographic requirements that have to be met. If you want to talk about issues of race then what about when my dad was taking the test to become a cop in the early 90's when white males had to score a 90% or better and black males only had to score a 60%? That was fair .
    Because the its taken a long time to get over those issues and you were talking about going back in time.
    Yes you are correct, the 90% and 60% standards were fair.

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    Re: New Here

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Whenever I hear that tripe I'm reminded that I see more Ron Paul signs than anyone else's, that he wins most polls for debates and in voting polls even when he places 2nd the media don't even mention him, and by the Douglass Adams quote, "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."

    The system, the media, and those who support the system spew that tripe, or make appeals to ridicule him but never actually explain how he is wrong about anything, they just misrepresent his positions (non-interventionism) and attack their easy straw men (isolationism, alleged weakness on foreign policy for opposing useless foreign bases, the infamous Ron Paul newsletter.)

    How anyone could support such phony candidates merely because they "can win" makes me resent the civics of so many of my countrymen.
    Exactly my thinking. Anyone saying his foreign policy is isolationism hasn't been watching the debates. He says get our bases out of foreign countries and in stead of forcing ourselves on others we should talk to them. Not go into other countries attempt to overthrow their government and tell the people the way their government should be. Why is it ok for us to do it, but if the people of a country go to another country and attempt to make it communist its not ok? Very hypocritical. The golden rule makes complete sense. If Iran had military bases over here we would be doing the same thing they are. As for his his electability, the caucuses being held are very fishy. Announcing winners before the votes are counted. Trying to steal Paul's votes. Turning the lights out as they collect the ballots instead of doing a public vote such as they have in the past. He has the most support of any other candidate including Obama from active duty military. I would say him not being electable is bs. Time for the media to give us the news not make their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    In another post, I stated I would vote for Ron Paul if he runs as an independent or Libertarian. I vote for Obama if Paul runs as a Republican.
    This makes no sense. I though your suppose to vote for who you thought would be the best president not against a party just because you don't like them?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Because the its taken a long time to get over those issues and you were talking about going back in time.
    Yes you are correct, the 90% and 60% standards were fair.
    I'm just going to pray you are kidding about the 90% 60% standards.

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    Re: New Here

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio did an in depth investigation of Obama's birth certificate. Just announced today. I understand that his mother was found not to be a citizen of the US. Apparently they went to Hawaii and found his forgery in the states bound birth certificates and that apparently the Republican Governor had it inserted there. And Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his volunteers did this on their dime and didn't charge the Arizona government anything. I guess we'll be succeeding form the US until we have a valid president. I'm so glad we'er past racial bias and now have the truth.
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