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Thread: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

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    Re: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Keystone pipeline. It would be easy to issue the permits and our friends in Canada have lots of oil they want to sell to us. All the idiot would have to do is sign a simple waiver.
    Again, the Keystone pipeline gets the oil to the refineries on the Gulf Coast where the Canadian companies that own the oil will have it refined and shipped world wide including the US. Why do you think they are going to charge us less than anyone else? BTW Canada is a net petroleum importer not exporter.
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    Re: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

    Anyone who thinks the President gets to decide Oil Prices...is an idiot.

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    Re: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Anyone who thinks the President gets to decide Oil Prices...is an idiot.
    They can influence policy that can have an effect on oil.
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    Re: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    They can influence policy that can have an effect on oil.
    Very minimally.
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    Re: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Very minimally.
    Maybe so, but they still have some influence. Personally, I don't think Obama has done anything to help fuel prices at all.
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    Re: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Very minimally.
    Not necessarily. If they get a policy closely resembling what they wanted you can argue that it's the president that had the influence. The moratorium is all Obama, as were new EPA mandates and OSHA rules, the former being invalidated by a judge with the ruling ignored and the latter being just ridiculous. In a nutshell the proximity of the president to the regs and policies determine their influence.
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    Re: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Maybe so, but they still have some influence. Personally, I don't think Obama has done anything to help fuel prices at all.
    There hasn't been a president in my lifetime that actually did something to help fuel prices. It's not their job.
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    Re: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Not necessarily. If they get a policy closely resembling what they wanted you can argue that it's the president that had the influence. The moratorium is all Obama, as were new EPA mandates and OSHA rules, the former being invalidated by a judge with the ruling ignored and the latter being just ridiculous. In a nutshell the proximity of the president to the regs and policies determine their influence.
    The policies have a minimal affect on fuel prices overall.

    The price of fuel is not really controlled by the US. It hasn't been since before I was born.
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    Re: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The policies have a minimal affect on fuel prices overall.

    The price of fuel is not really controlled by the US. It hasn't been since before I was born.
    Eh. Yes and no, the futures market will fluctuate dependent on how it views the effects on supply due to current actions, but if the refinery end or distrubution end gets kinked up then that also has effects. It's all about indices performing well.
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    Re: If McCain had won in '08, gas would cost...?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Eh. Yes and no, the futures market will fluctuate dependent on how it views the effects on supply due to current actions, but if the refinery end or distrubution end gets kinked up then that also has effects. It's all about indices performing well.
    No US policies exist which could have a major effect on the futures market, though. Minimal effects, sure, but the US policy decisions are only one small part of the total equation.
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