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Would Jesus be a Liberal?

Which of these political leans would Jesus be?

  • Liberal

    Votes: 40 44.0%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 12 13.2%
  • Moderate

    Votes: 7 7.7%
  • Potato

    Votes: 32 35.2%

  • Total voters
    91
Sadly, it's a little reflecting of this place when I see so many replying in the affirmative: "liberal."
IMO, the people here speak the truth...Jesus did set the example as to how people should live - ideally..
In reality, we must be balanced, conservatism is not evil, it is the brake that Progression needs..
 
Libbos would label him as a homophobe and an Islamophobe.

Oh, and a warmonger, too.

In truth, we do not.
Its amazing that two men can look at the same thing and draw such opposite conclusions.
Obviously, liberals are closer to the truth, in my opinion..
 
It happens to print the money... I dont think it needs to steal anything.
If you had even the most fundamental grasp of the concept of inflation, you would know that it is stealing, in every sense of the word.
Ben Bernanke is an unelected official who with almost zero consequential oversight can produce as much money as he wants, for any reason he wants.
Printing money does not increase the wealth of a society, it redistributes it. Every dollar printed devalues your bank account. In the past 10 years we've
lost 30% of the value of the dollar, and you claim this is not stealing? Very naive.


I would request evidence of the US stealing from it's citizens.
- Inflation, which we've covered
- Taxation, which we've also covered
- Eminent domain (where the government can seize any property for just about any reason from private citizens, and pay them less than market value)
- The theft of our freedom to a trial (Thanks Obama and Bush)

I can go on, but I did not limit my argument to the American government, surely you wouldn't need any examples of foreign governments stealing from the people.

"Money is property"
No its not...
How about a vapid trap question: "what is money?"
Money is directly your property, because it is the product of the sweat of your brow (Or maybe in your case the sweat of your parents' brows).
Your labor and every bit of your property are attached to a monetary value, and this monetary value is manipulated and contorted to benefit the politicians and the well connected rich.

Just repeating "because they're the government" sheds no light on WHY you believe these people are able to steal while you and I are forbidden from doing so.

You've got to dig a little deeper. WHY are certain people (the government) allowed to legally steal, while stealing is illegal for you and me? What gives certain people the ethical authority to govern and collect taxes, while others lack this power?
Centinel, I don't think his 5th grade civics teacher has told yet him why he believes what he believes.
 
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Centinel, I don't think his 5th grade civics teacher has told yet him why he believes what he believes.
Good point, my rabid friend. If one believes that some people (the government) may legally steal with impunity, while this activity is illegal (and unethical) to the rest of us normal people, one ought to have a ready explanation for such an ethical contradiction.

And no, "because they are the government" is not a thorough explanation.
 
people were the same in the middle ages or previous times ,because they used to know the fact 'money'.
 
Shall we discuss what Harry Potter would be if he were alive today.
 
If you had even the most fundamental grasp of the concept of inflation, you would know that it is stealing, in every sense of the word.
Ben Bernanke is an unelected official who with almost zero consequential oversight can produce as much money as he wants, for any reason he wants.
Printing money does not increase the wealth of a society, it redistributes it. Every dollar printed devalues your bank account. In the past 10 years we've
lost 30% of the value of the dollar, and you claim this is not stealing? Very naive.

It may blow you're mind that I'm aware of what fiat is...

Centinel, I don't think his 5th grade civics teacher has told yet him why he believes what he believes.

Someone didn't take 5th grade civics and believes a government steals when it levys a tax.
 
Someone didn't take 5th grade civics and believes a government steals when it levys a tax.
You continue to claim that some people (the government) have some sort of exemption from the commandment Thou shalt not steal, yet you offer no justification for this divine right other than that these people are the government.

So let me recap your "argument":
Some people (the government) have the power to levy taxes, an act which, if done by you or me, would be called stealing.
Why do these people have this special power?
Because they are the government.

Again, I ask you, where do these special people get the authority to levy taxes, an act which you and I clearly may not do. Why do these special people not need to abide by Thou shalt not steal?
 
You continue to claim that some people (the government) have some sort of exemption from the commandment Thou shalt not steal

I didn't realize the ten commandments were the divine law of the USA.

yet you offer no justification for this divine right other than that these people are the government.

I don't have to. I can merely stay here and bask in the glow of reality while you froth away.

So let me recap your "argument":
Some people (the government) have the power to levy taxes, an act which, if done by you or me, would be called stealing.
Why do these people have this special power?
Because they are the government.

Again, I ask you, where do these special people get the authority to levy taxes, an act which you and I clearly may not do. Why do these special people not need to abide by Thou shalt not steal?

Why can the cops murder me for trying to murder other people... I don't get this.

I don't know if you think you sound intellectual or deep on a fundamental level of somesort.

This is plain moronic.
 
I don't have to. I can merely stay here and bask in the glow of reality while you froth away.

Why can the cops murder me for trying to murder other people... I don't get this.

I don't know if you think you sound intellectual or deep on a fundamental level of somesort.

This is plain moronic.
Okay. I see you are out of ideas, so you resort to name calling.

Well, if you ever figure out how some people come by the divine right to rule over others, let me know. I'll consider your claim unsupported until you, you know, make an actual argument.
 
You're right, that actually really does blow my mind. You never would've been able to guess that based on the things you say.

Curious this, that the government isnt criminal for collecting taxes. What a mad traitor to the people I must be.
 
Curious this, that the government isnt criminal for collecting taxes. What a mad traitor to the people I must be.

What a wonderful understanding of how you hold the government responsible that you have there.
 
So how do the people collecting the taxes acquire the authority to do so, when if you or I did the same thing we would be said to be stealing? Who gives them the authority? Those collecting the taxes are people just like you and me, right? What is so special about them that gives them the moral authority to do what you and I are forbidden from doing?

Enter the 5th grade civics class; then Wikipedia; then THINK !
Go to Washington DC and ask these pointed questions....
 
If hercules were alive today, being the son of a god, what would his political lean be?
 
If hercules were alive today, being the son of a god, what would his political lean be?

IMO.....he would follow law and order. Adhering to the path of the Danda. Righteousness!
 
Not at all actually.

Okay. Do you have anything else to say?

Or are you going to continue leading this discussion into pointless philosophical black holes...
such as the government 'stealing' its taxes.

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Okay. Do you have anything else to say?

Or are you going to continue leading this discussion into pointless philosophical black holes...
such as the government 'stealing' its taxes.

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Did you happen to disprove it? If you did, can you link to the post?
 
I don't see how there is any room for debate here. Jesus was a clearly a fascist. He was very vocally in support of a one party totalitarian regime purged of all foreign influences. Anyone with anything less than absolute trust and obedience to this totalitarian State will be summarily tortured in a lake of fire for eternity.
 
Did you happen to disprove it? If you did, can you link to the post?

Disprove what? You may be talking about some secret that you have that you're not sharing with the thread.
 
Disprove what? You may be talking about some secret that you have that you're not sharing with the thread.

Remember the talk you had with a few members here? Did you disprove anything they said?
 
I don't see how there is any room for debate here. Jesus was a clearly a fascist. He was very vocally in support of a one party totalitarian regime purged of all foreign influences. Anyone with anything less than absolute trust and obedience to this totalitarian State will be summarily tortured in a lake of fire for eternity.
As sad as it is, that is dead on.

Well guys, I think we're done here.

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