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Thread: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    You are missing my point completely. I did not imply by "followers" that Rome was concerned about an growing religion. Noticed that I said concerned and not scared.
    Rome was not concerned, worried, upset or any other dodge you can come up with. the pharisees were and set him up. No translation mistake, not inconsistency.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    You do realize that you look like an ass patting yourself on the back all the time?
    Comes with the territory when debating someone that can barely remember the last post they made, let alone present evidence for any kind of valid argument.

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    Your only evidence is a book that comes in many versions.
    Well lets look at your statements....

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    I agree that all religion are cults. In the context of the biblical Jesus living in this modern world, he would be viewed as a wacko. Of course if was able to do the things like what the bible said he did then things might be a bit different. But if Jesus were alive today then he would not have been alive back in whats called biblical times. Which would mean that things would be very different today. IMO we would be much better off without cultists and their kool-aid. Without that mentality we would see the world as it actually is. Which is not cruel or evil but just is reality a mix of everything that is real.
    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Good and evil are perceptions that differ between everyone. Take the ten commandments for example most of them have nothing to do with morals. God has never been in the equation, there have only been humans saying that a god exists and they base the claim on faith. And everything is reality based that is how reality works. One in reality can believe in god or whatever but one has to accept that god is not reality based, it is based on faith. Which is the entire purpose of the bible, to convince you that god exists through faith in his existence. No faith no god.

    But back to the subject, Jesus would not be a Liberal. Jesus of the bible was not a politician nor a partisan hack. The character was portrayed as an opponent of the Roman empire who used outlandish claims of being a god to acquire followers. Jesus was a rebel cultist that defied Roman law. When the Romans no longer tolerated Jesus attempt to over throw the government through propaganda they killed him for treason. And Jesus failed miserably at his goal of changing Rome. Rome did use Christianity to control the masses but ultimately that model failed (as it did in Europe later). Rome did not fall for five centuries [color=red]after Jesus died in the biblical story[/color=red]. In the end Jesus was more like David Koresh than anyone else.
    Looks like you not only don't know squat about the Bible, you tried really hard to use it as evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    I simply to do not believe your source to be valid and accurate when I get it wrong and have no idea what I am talking about.
    I changed the comment above to reflect the "reality" of the situation.

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    And I grow tired of this sidetracked conversation that has nothing to do with whether Jesus could be viewed as a Liberal.
    Good.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    If you feel the need to take me to task start a new thread.
    Why? Your argument in this thread was so inconsistent and plain old moronic, I think it would be pointless.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Jesus was a radical. He took on the wealthy high Jewish Priests at a time when blasphemy was punishable by death. In doing so, he also took on the government as they were inseparable from the religious hierarchy. He was tried for treason and crucified.

    He had leftist nonconformist traits, but he was too far left to be called a Liberal.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Rome was not concerned, worried, upset or any other dodge you can come up with. the pharisees were and set him up. No translation mistake, not inconsistency.



    Comes with the territory when debating someone that can barely remember the last post they made, let alone present evidence for any kind of valid argument.



    Well lets look at your statements....





    Looks like you not only don't know squat about the Bible, you tried really hard to use it as evidence.



    I changed the comment above to reflect the "reality" of the situation.



    Good.



    Why? Your argument in this thread was so inconsistent and plain old moronic, I think it would be pointless.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
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    Still got nothing eh?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
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    This happens when two fools argue.

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    If Jesus was a real person, based on the bible, he clearly would be unaffiliated.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    This happens when two fools argue.
    Well at least we were debating and not just trolling or leveling personal attacks at people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Still got nothing eh?
    No I have plenty but this is not the time or place for the direction we took this debate.

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    No I have plenty but this is not the time or place for the direction we took this debate.
    Nor was your original response, it didn't stop you then?

    Yes you are correct that this has gone way over the scope of the thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

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