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Thread: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Anyone who can magically create fish and wine would probably have a **** understanding of economic policies.
    why would there be economic policies in a life where there is no scarcity? economics depends upon scarcity to define and give it existance.

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    During the time of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, three centuries ago, for all practical purposes, health-care and education did not exist, particularly for the masses(farmers).
    Today, if we were to design a totally new Constitution, these and many other things would be included....otherwise we would have a people's revolution.... Maybe this is what the Librarians want.....hard to tell...
    - Did you just say that if we were to design a new constitution today, we would include a right to education and health care, and because of this, that's why we currently have these rights? Outstanding.
    - I don't care what librarians want.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    why would there be economic policies in a life where there is no scarcity? economics depends upon scarcity to define and give it existance.
    Thank you for demonstrating why the premise of my joke works.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    hmmm. interesting how you repeat the point, ignoring it's earlier deconstruction.

    Fascists, for example, do not give you a choice whether or not to bow the knee. .
    Yes they do. They give you the choice to either bow the knee or be shot in the head. More generous in my opinion than the choice to either bow the knee or suffer eternal torment in a lake of fire.

    God not only grants you Choice, He grants you a freedom in it not granted to any other creation than that of the Angels themselves. The only ones who seek His will and live in it are those who CHOOSE to do so. It is not He that rejects you, it is you that reject Him, and your only punishment for doing so is that you are left free to do so.
    "***44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

    ***45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

    ***46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

    How old are you?
    How is that relevent?

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    During the time of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, three centuries ago, for all practical purposes, health-care and education did not exist, particularly for the masses(farmers).
    Government healthcare and public education existed before any of the founders were born.

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Funny how people just ignore the bible and the actual teachings and words of Jesus....


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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Funny how people just ignore the bible and the actual teachings and words of Jesus....
    ...such as "Thou shalt not steal"
    Last edited by Centinel; 03-05-12 at 10:08 PM.

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Yes they do. They give you the choice to either bow the knee or be shot in the head.
    That is incorrect. Christ gives you the choice between seeking Him or not doing so. Christians are nowhere ordered to attempt to force the choice, or to take any action against those who refuse other than the explicit order that we are to love them, even if they then do us the most grievous forms of harm. That is not to say that Christians have never broken that law, but simply to point out that them doing so is in contradiction to the dictates of their faith. I think you are thinking of Islam. Which does indeed have a rather different approach at current.

    "***44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

    ***45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

    ***46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
    precisely. it's not your works - and thank God (quite literally) that it isn't.

    but this makes precisely the opposite of the point that you are trying to make; namely you are arguing that Christ judges you by what you do or do not do on earth, much as a dictatorship would - whereas this citation rather demonstrates the opposite.

    It's a rough analogy, but you are basically looking at the differences between a couple making love and a violent rape, and concluding that because both involve sexuality, there must be an equal presence of consent on both parties.

    You still have, for example, yet to explain how fascism can exist stripped of all the things that identify it as "fascism". In Heaven there is no large welfare state, for the simple enough reason that there is no need for welfare. There is no martial law, for the simple enough reason that there is no crime. fascism involves (among other things) placing the origin of the eschaton in the corporate personhood of the State; which not only isn't present in Heaven, but is indeed idol-worship.

    National Socialism? There is neither Nationalism (for all are together and loved and love each other in Christ Jesus) nor Socialism (for there is no scarcity, but only ever present abundance) in the Kingdom of Heaven. Ideologies such as Fascism, Socialism, Conservatism, do not exist - they are limited, earth-bound creations of man, built upon sand, and doomed as surely as the sun, though they shall not last nearly as long.

    How is that relevent?
    because you sound like you are still rebelling against your parents. "oh gosh well Christians are all just fascists" is the kind of thing that particularly foolish psuedo-intellectual high school and college students like to say because they get a thrill from sounding jaded, cynical, and rebellious, but which they lack the ability to adequately defend. If that's you, that's fine, most of us go through the phase where we have not yet learned enough not to mistake cynicism for wisdom, and outlandishness for truth. You will note, for example, that the only argument you can make is the existence of Hell, from which you surmise that Christianity is an abusive dictatorship. But that is silly - because Christ is also quite clear that he would frankly prefer that no one go there. Was willing to be tortured to death just to give everyone the option of escaping it, in fact. You apparently have little to no actual awareness of the specific platforms of Fascist ideology, and little enough awareness of Christian theology.
    Last edited by cpwill; 03-05-12 at 10:09 PM.

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    ...such as "Thou shalt not steal"
    Yes of course.. Workers owning the means of production is stealing in your eyes how can i forget....


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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes of course.. Workers owning the means of production is stealing in your eyes how can i forget....
    If they are doing it with willing members outside of government intervention I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.

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