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Thread: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Wait. I thought the government doesn't exist.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    One is legal and one is not. taxation is legitimate and necessary for government to function while theft is not.
    Social program expenditures and foreign aid are not necessary for government to function. The government is inserting itself as a surrogate theif.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Wait. I thought the government doesn't exist.
    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Some people do wish this. People on watchlists.
    I was referring to this statement of yours:

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    The government cannot steal, it is not a person.
    It is an embodiment of the will of the people.
    As you point out, the concept of "government" is simply that, a concept. The government has no physical reality, it is simply the name we use for a group of people and a set of interactions. Every action taken by "the government" is an action taken by some actual human being. My position is that the commandment Thou shalt not steal applies to people, all people, regardless of whether they call themselves "the government" or not.

    Unless you can point out how a certain group of people become exempt from God's laws, that is.

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If Jesus Christ were alive today, would he be a liberal, conservative, or something else? Why?
    Definitely a communist.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    He would be apolitical.


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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    It happens to print the money... I dont think it needs to steal anything.


    The government is not printing the money needed for unconstitutional expenditures on benevolent purposes. It is taking from some to give directly to others.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    A Socialist. He was all for the people.
    Do you realize there's a difference between an individual helping people and encouraging others to do so and people being forced to help through government-enforced taxes?


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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    As you point out, the concept of "government" is simply that, a concept. The government has no physical reality, it is simply the name we use for a group of people and a set of interactions. Every action taken by "the government" is an action taken by some actual human being. My position is that the commandment Thou shalt not steal applies to people, all people, regardless of whether they call themselves "the government" or not.

    Unless you can point out how a certain group of people become exempt from God's laws, that is.
    Last I checked the government was above your personal conceptions of god. And since it is a concept it cannot be a person to steal in the first place.

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Last I checked the government was above your personal conceptions of god. And since it is a concept it cannot be a person to steal in the first place.
    "And since it is a concept it cannot be a person to steal in the first place." Excellent observation.

    So, now we have established that "government" is simply a concept. Excellent. So I will see no more responses from you claiming that "the government" may do this or that. For as you yourself have just proven, the government is a concept and is incapable of physical action. People are real, government is a concept. People act, governments don't.

    So here's a couple of simple questions: What gives some people the power to tax others? Why is it that when you or I decide to "tax" others it is called stealing?

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    "And since it is a concept it cannot be a person to steal in the first place." Excellent observation.

    So, now we have established that "government" is simply a concept. Excellent. So I will see no more responses from you claiming that "the government" may do this or that. For as you yourself have just proven, the government is a concept and is incapable of physical action. People are real, government is a concept. People act, governments don't.

    So here's a couple of simple questions: What gives some people the power to tax others? Why is it that when you or I decide to "tax" others it is called stealing?
    The people are taxed by consent in a democracy...
    Your example basically assumes a dictatorship of you and me.

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