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Thread: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Exactly. Some on the far left also see the capitalist system as inherently exploitative and a form of theft (according to Marx's labor theory of value). There's no universal definition of what theft is - same with phrases like "rightfully earned" or "rightfully deserved."
    Idiots like Marx can think whatever they want. How exactly does that change anything?

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Exactly. Some on the far left also see the capitalist system as inherently exploitative and a form of theft (according to Marx's labor theory of value). There's no universal definition of what theft is - same with phrases like "rightfully earned" or "rightfully deserved."
    Yes. And in Jesus' times, that all wasn't relevant yet. There weren't really taxes as we have today, neither was there a developed capitalism. So I believe we don't know what Jesus would have said on this topic.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Idiots like Marx can think whatever they want. How exactly does that change anything?
    I'm saying definitions are subjective, and perspectives differ. Way to be super anal-retentive about it. Care to address my point, or you going to continue bitching about Marx?
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm saying definitions are subjective, and perspectives differ. Way to be super anal-retentive about it. Care to address my point, or you going to continue bitching about Marx?
    Marx just had a different opinion based on idiotic thoughts and motivations. It proves nothing.

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    There is very little cuter than Libertarians who think Jesus is anything like them.

    Seriously my children, Jesus was the guy who said "feed the poor" not "**** the poor".
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Marx just had a different opinion based on idiotic thoughts and motivations. It proves nothing.
    Yeah, but Marx was a bit more sophisticated when explaining his thoughts than just saying "you guys suck, because you are idiots".
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Zawisza View Post
    You've lost me.
    Google corporate welfare.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Yeah, but Marx was a bit more sophisticated when explaining his thoughts than just saying "you guys suck, because you are idiots".
    All he had to do was show how they would less responsible with his ideas and be better off. You can get people to buy into anything if you offer them less responsibly. He offered nothing new, just dreams thought up years before he was ever born. All he did was recycle idiocy already disproven using a tactic thought up before even Jesus was born.
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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

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    Re: Would Jesus be a Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    All he had to do was show how they would less responsible with his ideas and be better off. You can get people to buy into anything if you offer them less responsibly.
    Um what? English por favor?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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