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Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

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Hatuey said:
Anybody who seeks to purposely destabilize or destroy the US government and its leadership is a terrorist. If they are American citizens, they are traitors and terrorists. If they are foreign citizens, they're toast.
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The horrors of the Inquisition would not be too severe for some of these hackers
 
X Factor said:
Thanks for introducing the partisanship to this thread had been lacking up to this point. :roll: Disappointing comment, UM. :(
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Sorry, I went ahead and tried to make it better.

Thanks for pointing it out.
 
X Factor said:
Anonymous has declared war.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...056-anonymous-declares-war-us-government.html

In their statement, they say they have been classified as a terrorist organization (I don't know if they have been or not). I see terrorism as involving physical violence toward people or property. What do you think? In your opinion, are they a terrorist organization?
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No, they're not. They're likely to be classified as one though so that the US government can subvert a multitude of laws to track them down. Dissent these days seems to be a form of "terrorism".
 
Ikari said:
No, they're not. They're likely to be classified as one though so that the US government can subvert a multitude of laws to track them down. Dissent these days seems to be a form of "terrorism".
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We're a little sensitive to threats of overthrow and declarations of war these days. Surely you can see why.
 
X Factor said:
Anonymous has declared war.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...056-anonymous-declares-war-us-government.html

In their statement, they say they have been classified as a terrorist organization (I don't know if they have been or not). I see terrorism as involving physical violence toward people or property. What do you think? In your opinion, are they a terrorist organization?
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As far as I know, Anonymous has not been labeled a terrorist organization.

However, the National Security Agency very recently declared them a possible national security threat.

And no - I don't think Anonymous are a terrorist organization. I think they are a popular political activist organization. And I even consider them patriots.
 
Ikari said:
No, they're not. They're likely to be classified as one though so that the US government can subvert a multitude of laws to track them down. Dissent these days seems to be a form of "terrorism".
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"Dissent" isn't the problem, the problem is criminal activity like hacking.
 
X Factor said:
We're a little sensitive to threats of overthrow and declarations of war these days. Surely you can see why.
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Because maybe the US Government has acted in a way to deserve it?
 
Peter Grimm said:
"Dissent" isn't the problem, the problem is criminal activity like hacking.
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If hacking wasn't one of the few ways to get the government to listen to the people they govern then popular groups wouldn't resort to it to get the government's attention.
 
If they are criminals, treat them as criminals, The term terrorist has far too many strings attached for my liking.
 
samsmart said:
If hacking wasn't one of the few ways to get the government to listen to the people they govern then popular groups wouldn't resort to it to get the government's attention.
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I don't buy that. Good ideas spread like wildfire. There are a lot of positive ways to get your message out.
 
Peter Grimm said:
I don't buy that. Good ideas spread like wildfire. There are a lot of positive ways to get your message out.
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Like writing the Declaration of Independence, for instance, and declaring war against your unjust ruler.
 
If these criminals were just harassing government...that'd be one thing. The problem is - the government has way too much information on me. Not to sound narcissistic, but I consider any breach of my personal data in public or private institutions...not good.
 
Removable Mind said:
If these criminals were just harassing government...that'd be one thing. The problem is - the government has way too much information on me. Not to sound narcissistic, but I consider any breach of my personal data in public or private institutions...not good.
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But the government already does that itself. They get any and every bit of information they can. They'll force phone companies to give it up, they'll stick GPS trackers to our cars should they be parked outside, etc. Your personal data has already been breached.
 
Ikari said:
Breaking the law does not make one a terrorist.
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I would call them "cyber-guerillas"

What does "terrorist" mean? To me, it refers to the use of fear tactics by a non-state actor against a civilian population. So, Hamas blowing up a bus in Israel is terrorism - it's meant to frighten people in to submission.

I think the government uses the term to define any non-state hostile actor.
 
Peter Grimm said:
I would call them "cyber-guerillas"

What does "terrorist" mean? To me, it refers to the use of fear tactics by a non-state actor against a civilian population. So, Hamas blowing up a bus in Israel is terrorism - it's meant to frighten people in to submission.

I think the government uses the term to define any non-state hostile actor.
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I'd call it "cyber-pissing-into-the-wind". But the point is the same. I do agree that government uses the term to define any non-state (non-ally State) hostile actor. In general for terrorism, however, I would say that a State could very well utilize terrorism the same as any other individual.
 
Ikari said:
I'd call it "cyber-pissing-into-the-wind". But the point is the same. I do agree that government uses the term to define any non-state (non-ally State) hostile actor. In general for terrorism, however, I would say that a State could very well utilize terrorism the same as any other individual.
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When we kicked off the war in Iraq, we used the whole "shock and awe" campaign which is nothing more than psychological warfare. That's the same principle, anyway.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Canada and Australia never had revolutionary wars, but they're doing fine.
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No their not! Canadia has Frenchies in it, and Australia is descended from criminals.


hehehehe
 
Peter Grimm said:
When we kicked off the war in Iraq, we used the whole "shock and awe" campaign which is nothing more than psychological warfare. That's the same principle, anyway.
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The US government often works in ways to secure power through plentiful use of fear.
 
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