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    Re: Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

    Don't know if "terrorist" fits, but declaring yourself at war with the United States government does make you treasonous.

    18 U.S.C. 2381:

    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
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    Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
    Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
    Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
    Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
    If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
    As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
    So, if the government decides to pursue them, they're doing time.
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    Re: Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

    They cannot be trusted. That is for sure. They clearly support piracy (illegal downloads) because they are allowed to "file share" and yet they provide themselves with music and movies for free. They make it theirs without paying for it. They try to paint themselves as "for the good of the people," but I really just don't see it. Sure some of the things they do are good, but they just cannot be trusted. I think that is the big thing. And I think they should be called iTerrorists. I mean if they actually had to deal with actual counter terror groups....I think there would be a lot of pants wetting.
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    Re: Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    ...And I think they should be called iTerrorists....
    Apple might have a problem with that. Call them "E-Terrorists" instead.

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    Re: Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Anonymous has declared war.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...overnment.html

    In their statement, they say they have been classified as a terrorist organization (I don't know if they have been or not). I see terrorism as involving physical violence toward people or property. What do you think? In your opinion, are they a terrorist organization?
    I think of terrorism a little differently. To me, the word "terrorism" ought to refer to the use of fear tactics against a civilian population.

    I think the government uses the term to define any non-state hostile actor.

    For that reason, I voted "yes." It's all semantics, though. "Guerilla" is probably a better word to describe them.

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    Re: Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

    I don't know if I would label them as a terrorist group, but I would label them as stupid.
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    Re: Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Apple might have a problem with that. Call them "E-Terrorists" instead.
    Oh I thought apple had some sort of new plan. iTerror to go with iVXCloud.
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    Re: Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

    To me, Terrorism implies violence. Anonymous is not violent, so I would not call them terrorists. Common criminals and assholes would be as far as I would go.
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    Re: Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    To me, Terrorism implies violence. Anonymous is not violent, so I would not call them terrorists. Common criminals and assholes would be as far as I would go.
    I think I agree with you (still a little up in the air). I think there are good arguments that they're terrorists because they could cause real harm and disruption of people's lives. At the same time though, the picture of terrorism in my mind is of property damage and, worse, actual physical harm to people. Also, I don't want to call every nuisance terrorists.

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    Re: Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Anonymous has declared war.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...overnment.html

    In their statement, they say they have been classified as a terrorist organization (I don't know if they have been or not). I see terrorism as involving physical violence toward people or property. What do you think? In your opinion, are they a terrorist organization?
    Taking down websites and releasing some info here and there hardly causes "terror" nor is it violent. They might be criminals, but I don't think they are terrorists.

    Moreover, I don't have much of a problem with what they do. Obviously, if I had a website and they took it down or hacked into my database, I would be pissed. However, most of their actions are relativity harmless. It's a difficult to thing to get worked up about.

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    Re: Is "Anonymous" a Terrorist Organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I think that to describe them as terrorists attributes to them a much greater level of intelligence and direction than I see any reason to suppose that they have.
    Based on what I've heard and read, it sounds more like a bunch of punk kids.
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