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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I didn't see anything demonizing of the rich, just the usual facts suggesting many are basic scumbags. "Justice is for the rich and influential" doesn't mean that those who can afford to buy justice are the good guys. They are the chief polluters, misusers, maladministrators, colluders, and slimebag lawyers that pontificate publicly and manifest skullduggery, chaos, and mayhem privately. That would be like ginning up a war because it will make your corporation more money. A true art of the wealthy, also known as the military/industrial/corporate complex. Others just refer to them as the 1%. Who'd a thunk it?
    What blind hatred. The top 1% make up more than 3 million people. There are only around 400 billionaires, which is about one-one hundredth of one percent.

    Having some fixed preconceived characterization of a greedy villain billionaire and broad-brushing 3 million countrymen based on it is quite pathetic. You folks need to grow up.
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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    I wish I could vote Other/Potato/42/Whatever/I don't care, but the options are so limited.

    It really depends.

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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    wealth, like power, does not make one more or less ethical. all it does is expand ones' ability to engage in ethical or unethical behavior.

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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    wealth, like power, does not make one more or less ethical. all it does is expand ones' ability to engage in ethical or unethical behavior.
    Which in turn makes one less ethical and more able to engage in such behavior.
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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    or more ethical. depending on whether you are measuring by effect or intent. personally I prefer the latter.

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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Power corrupts so they say. The rich is more powerful than the middle class or poor.

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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    A Berkely "study" huh LMAO, I will read no further.

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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    wealth, like power, does not make one more or less ethical. all it does is expand ones' ability to engage in ethical or unethical behavior.
    Again, I disagree. The study is flawed as they used a very narrow definition of "ethics". They discounted all criminal behavior and only the grey area that may not be unlawful but may not be socially correct either. Unethical conduct is any conduct where a person takes unfair advantage of another for personal gain.
    Theft of property, assualt, intimidation, etc.... things that are the norm in poor society are all done for personal gain at the expense of another.

    The textbook definition:
    ethical [ˈɛθɪkəl]
    adj
    1. in accordance with principles of conduct that are considered correct, esp those of a given profession or group
    2. (Philosophy) of or relating to ethics
    3. (Medicine) (of a medicinal agent) available legally only with a doctor's prescription or consent
    ethically adv
    ethicalness , ethicality n
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    Wealth may change the scope and scale of the unethical behavior, but that does not make them More or Less ethical than the poor.
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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    I would think any tendency toward greed, selfishness, or miserliness will tend to push a person toward the upper levels of wealth and income. These character traits, while not unethical in and of themselves, certainly make cheating and stealing more tempting. I do not believe persons of wealth are any better at combating personal temptation, so the higher rate of temptation would also lead to more failures of will.


    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    or more ethical. depending on whether you are measuring by effect or intent. personally I prefer the latter.
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    I can understand your opinion applying to a scientist or engineer breaking new ground because intent is all we have to judge their actions in those situations. Typically, they state their intent up front along with a chain of accepted logic leading to an expected outcome for the experiment.
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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    Wealth may change the scope and scale of the unethical behavior, but that does not make them More or Less ethical than the poor.
    You seem to be assuming Rich v Poor here but the title includes the middle-class where survival pressure is much lower than in 'poor' situations. I won't condemn a man for stealing food if he doesn't have the means to procure it legally but a man stealing an apple when he has money to pay for it is being unethical.
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