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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If a system can be played, someone will play it. It works with the rich as well as the poor. What I most often have a problem with is that too many conservatives only see it in the most poor and not in the wealthy.
    Goes back to what I try to teach young Marines. Before you do anything you believe may be in the gray area, think about what would happen if everybody did it. That goes with something as simple throwing a cigarette butt out the window while you're driving down the road or stuff as major as fleecing the welfare system or exploiting 3rd world labor. Of course, almost everybody is doing the last two and look where we are.
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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Here's the scoop.

    When you are wealthy it affords you more freedom, including social freedom. Meaning of course, you no longer have to act all nice and happy and socially acceptable. You can literally, afford not to. So you don't. Most don't. That's why seemingly ordinary people + power -> the appearance of being corrupted by power. When in reality, it's all a matter of perspective. If you're poor, you are likely dependant on a great number of people, hell, even strangers. Your entire life is fragile, you'd be wise to keep up the appearance of being an all around great person...you have a lot to lose if you aren't. Similar with charity.

    That's likely the primary reason.

    Next would be that after you compete and succeed, often over a grind of decades of hard work and stress, you simply don't suffer fools the way you did when you were young and more laid back. If it's legal, it's game. And even then, flawed men and women make laws, they aren't magical, if they have enough clout there, bending/break those might be within their every day life too. You learn how to overcome things, and you get good at it.

    People saying it's "entitlement", are missing the point. They typically really have more power, and really have more of a handle on how they are spending their energy in terms of getting what they want, or not. That's really the opposite of entitlement...

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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't agree with the OP. If one is talking about Federal income tax, then I think the rich tend to bend the rules. Most other things? Not so much. Money solves a lot of problems, and one of them is allowing people to be personally responsible for their wrong-doing without breaking the bank. I think they're much less likely to try to return something they've purchased when it doesn't concur with store policy...less likely to leave the scene of an accident...lie about how it happened...take something that doesn't belong to them...misrepresent their income...not take responsibility for damage their kids may do...that kind of thing.
    Hmmmm, like Bernie Madoff?

    Money is power. A lot of money is absolute power. Power has been known to corrupt. Not saying that everybody is corrupt...but given our present day problems we see with Government and our banking and market institutions...appears to me that more than a few are "bending the rules". And when you see legislators create rules (laws) to protect themselves or others in order to conduct business in ways that would more than likely be unethical for everybody else...then you have cronyism and legalized corruption.

    One other thing to consider. Would you want to be rich or less than rich in a litigation situation?

    Money does solve problems. But it can also create them.

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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I don't know if they're more "unethical" or just in a better position to demonstrate their immoral behavior.
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    Ultimately its about risk analysis. Being rich presents less risk for bad behavior and often an inflated sense of self importance based on research on how power affects the brain.

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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    one becomes greatly wealthy, by taking big risks.

    and when you feel you're able to take such a bet and win over & over, its much easier to contemplate committing crimes.

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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Goes back to what I try to teach young Marines. Before you do anything you believe may be in the gray area, think about what would happen if everybody did it. That goes with something as simple throwing a cigarette butt out the window while you're driving down the road or stuff as major as fleecing the welfare system or exploiting 3rd world labor. Of course, almost everybody is doing the last two and look where we are.
    Yep. If it can be done, someone will do it. Sadly.

    But you give good advice.

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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Another lame attempt to create a pseudo moral imperative to control what others earn. I'm sure the 99%'s will jump all over this.
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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Another lame attempt to create a pseudo moral imperative to control what others earn. I'm sure the 99%'s will jump all over this.
    I think you're making a leap. Maybe you've just bought into the class warfare hyperbole?


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    Re: Are the Rich more unethical?

    “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:23-24

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