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    Re: Obama should end Iranian Sanctions to Reduce Oil Prices

    The only reason we should repeal sanctions would be to substitute that plan with war.
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    Re: Obama should end Iranian Sanctions to Reduce Oil Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by anarchomoney View Post
    That will result in disaster. The road of good intentions is littered with the corpses of millions.

    If oil goes away it means people stop buying it. Why would people stop buying it? Too much money. Why would it cost too much money? If the supply dwindled, or if government somehow came in and banned it. That would be a disaster.

    If you ogt rid of oil then the alternative has to be at a reasonable price, or else we will go back to wagons. Oil should be fully exploited in order to provide an abundance of it at a very cheap price. This benefits everyone, especially the poor at the pump
    If you added the cost at the pump of the military expense to keep the oil flowing from the middle east, solar and wind power would be price competitive.
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    Re: Obama should end Iranian Sanctions to Reduce Oil Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The only reason we should repeal sanctions would be to substitute that plan with war.
    I'm surprised Digsbe to see this comment coming from you. That doesn't sound very Christian like.
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    Re: Obama should end Iranian Sanctions to Reduce Oil Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'm surprised Digsbe to see this comment coming from you. That doesn't sound very Christian like.
    At this time I don't know where I stand on war with Iran. I'm just saying if we stop sanctions we need to do something because Iran should not be left unrestrained.

    Also, not all Christians believe in pacifism or think that all wars are evil and unjust.
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    Re: Obama should end Iranian Sanctions to Reduce Oil Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are you talking about Nationalizing US oil and withdrawing from the world market??? How would we make up the difference for the 60% of oil that we consume beyond our production capability???
    from USA Today:
    Looking at your heating bills or gas prices, you may find it surprising that the United States is enjoying a mini oil boom. It's producing more crude oil and, for the first time in decades, has become a net exporter of petroleum products such as jet fuel, heating oil and gasoline.

    Oil boomlet sweeps U.S. as exports rise

    And, no I'm not "talking about Nationalizing US oil and withdrawing from the world market???"

    BTW, The pipeline from the Canadian oil sands to the Gulf of Mexico is to enable the export of Canadian oil via ships to the rest of the world, not the US. At least we get to process the oil here. Should we regulate the polutants?
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    Re: Obama should end Iranian Sanctions to Reduce Oil Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    At this time I don't know where I stand on war with Iran. I'm just saying if we stop sanctions we need to do something because Iran should not be left unrestrained.

    Also, not all Christians believe in pacifism or think that all wars are evil and unjust.
    General Demsey has stated there is no need to attack Iran. You don't believe in the teachings of Jesus, when he said do unto others as you would have them do unto you?
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    Re: Obama should end Iranian Sanctions to Reduce Oil Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you added the cost at the pump of the military expense to keep the oil flowing from the middle east, solar and wind power would be price competitive.
    but it's not. if it was you'd see companies selling it. one reason is that the government gave monopolies to your local utility companies. no incentive for change there. though there has been some deregulation, and there are a few competitors selling solar and wind energy. It's a start. I'm all for renewable energy, but I don't think something that costs maybe 1000% more than oil is a good idea.

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    Re: Obama should end Iranian Sanctions to Reduce Oil Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    from USA Today:
    Looking at your heating bills or gas prices, you may find it surprising that the United States is enjoying a mini oil boom. It's producing more crude oil and, for the first time in decades, has become a net exporter of petroleum products such as jet fuel, heating oil and gasoline.

    Oil boomlet sweeps U.S. as exports rise

    And, no I'm not "talking about Nationalizing US oil and withdrawing from the world market???"
    Where are you going to get the 60% of oil that that we currently import, because our production is 60% shy of our consumption? There has not been a single year since 1971, under either party, that we have produced as much oil as we consume.
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    Re: Obama should end Iranian Sanctions to Reduce Oil Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Where are you going to get the 60% of oil that that we currently import, because our production is 60% shy of our consumption? There has not been a single year since 1971, under either party, that we have produced as much oil as we consume.
    why should we? if we can buy it cheaper from world markets, then we should. restricting oil to only ourselves would hurt ourselves. we would pay more for it because we would be artificially cutting the size of supply, even though demand would still be there.

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    Re: Obama should end Iranian Sanctions to Reduce Oil Prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Where are you going to get the 60% of oil that that we currently import, because our production is 60% shy of our consumption? There has not been a single year since 1971, under either party, that we have produced as much oil as we consume.
    OK. I'll add more detail, but it was in the article I sighted. "It's dramatic. It's transformative," Edward Morse, a former senior U.S. energy official who now directs global commodities research at Citigroup, says of the historic shifts. He says the U.S. is importing a smaller share — 49% in 2010, down from 60% in 2005 — of the oil it uses, adding: "We're moving toward energy independence." So it's not 60%. If you would use up to date figures and add trends I'd be with you, but you appear to have an agenda beyond oil.

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