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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    This thread is about Bush and Obama.
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but the comparison is more apt between Bush and Romney.


    We'll see if that materializes. Cutting payments to hospitals just shifts costs to the states. Cutting payments to doctors isn't working out too well. Well see if it's sustainable.
    As the CBO projected, and reality now shows us, the spending cuts are helping rather than hurting.

    None of that contradicts what I said.
    I think it does, and I bet most agree with me in November.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    All policies supported by the viable GOP candidates. If you wish to look for opposition, you will have to look to the Democrats in Congress.
    As Obama has clearly demonstrated, no you don't. You turn to the Democrats if you want the same status quo the Republicans endorse.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    As Obama has clearly demonstrated, no you don't. You turn to the Democrats if you want the same status quo the Republicans endorse.
    "Twenty-six Republicans voted with 122 Democrats to oppose the measure, while 67 Democrats voted with 210 Republicans to back it. Ten members did not vote."

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...vote-some.html


    By my count that is a heck of a lot more Democrats opposed to it than Republicans.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but the comparison is more apt between Bush and Romney.
    If the next election is your concern, start a thread about Romney and Obama. This thread is about Bush and Obama. Trying to change to Bush and Romney makes no sense at all.





    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As the CBO projected, and reality now shows us, the spending cuts are helping rather than hurting.
    link please, thanks





    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think it does, and I bet most agree with me in November.
    I stated facts. You countered with a mixture of opinions and facts, but even your opinions didn't contradict the facts, regardless of what you "think".
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Twenty-six Republicans voted with 122 Democrats to oppose the measure, while 67 Democrats voted with 210 Republicans to back it. Ten members did not vote."

    44 - House rejects measure that would extend key Patriot Act provisions through December


    By my count that is a heck of a lot more Democrats opposed to it than Republicans.
    Yeah, but we still have the Patriot Act and all sorts of other new laws as well. We got GITMO and expanding foreign wars, we have more government, more rules, more people going to jail. Face it, decades of Republocrat rule have brought us to the point we are at right now. And it's not the best place to be given where we started out.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Twenty-six Republicans voted with 122 Democrats to oppose the measure, while 67 Democrats voted with 210 Republicans to back it. Ten members did not vote."

    44 - House rejects measure that would extend key Patriot Act provisions through December


    By my count that is a heck of a lot more Democrats opposed to it than Republicans.
    Patriot Act Extension Signed By Obama
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Bush was a horrible president, are you kidding me? Obama, a bush light? That would require the economy to move backwards, not forward.

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    All these message boards on the internet are probably run by the same 12 bored CIA agents, who are trying to unwind in their offices after another long day of bombing poor people.

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    If the next election is your concern, start a thread about Romney and Obama. This thread is about Bush and Obama. Trying to change to Bush and Romney makes no sense at all.
    You no longer allow forum members to challenge the OP??? I must have missed the announcement.


    link please, thanks
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    TPC found that repealing the AMT and cutting rates by 20 percent would increase the deficit by more than $3 trillion over the next 10 years, even after the 2001/2003/2010 tax cuts are extended."

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, but we still have the Patriot Act and all sorts of other new laws as well. We got GITMO and expanding foreign wars, we have more government, more rules, more people going to jail. Face it, decades of Republocrat rule have brought us to the point we are at right now. And it's not the best place to be given where we started out.
    That's why we need more liberals in Congress to add to the majority of Democrats that oppose the Patriot Act. The majority of Democrats voted against the GOP war in Iraq and they ended the Iraq war, while the GOP say we pulled out too soon. Face it we are better off with Democrats in power then when Republicans are in office.

    With Libertarians, we would lose the Departments of Education, Energy, and Environmental protection, in addition to SS and Medicare.

    Thanks, but no thanks!
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