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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You will be hard pressed to find dramatic results from one administration to the next, but within those limited changes there is a distinction.
    This reflects my thoughts.

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    I think you guys are missing the glaringly obvious difference of Obama actually having a functioning brain. Obama has been fighting a congress that is so dysfunctional it is almost non-existent. That being said, he has gotten a surprisingly long list of accomplishments, all while painting the Republicans into a corner as being the corporate lap dogs they are.

    You have to understand that there is not going to be any major differences between presidents when the congress that actually controls things is made up of the same idiots that were there with the previous administration.
    Their differences and qubbling are merely bad theatre for the masses to consume. Notice the awful acting? Its shadow puppet theatre! Then the media can concentrate on personalities, and cable news muppets can toss fodder to Jon Stewart.

    All the while, the war machine makes slaves of you all by ensaring you in a cycle of mass murder, poverty, disease, homelessness, unemployment , and hatred. All of our nations ills, as well as the doomed fate of those countries victimized by our voracious multiheaded hydra called "National Security," stem from the endless cycle of madness this massive Pentagon inflicts on the world.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Obama is more diplomatic towards us Europeans. Both in style and policies. He doesn't tell us to shut up and follow him, but actually coordinates his efforts with us. And Obama uses the UN when it's helpful, instead of actively obstructing it.

    That's a change already. Maybe not a great change, all in all, but it's something.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    I do know there is a sort of freedom in a second term. Knowing that you cannot be elected again frees you up to do some of the things that might have been too "taboo" in your previous term. I am willing to give him 4 more years, if for no other reason than appointing supreme court justices. I think we all can agree that the real power ends at the judicial branch.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    No, but according the candidate's policy proposals, Romney is Bush II!

    Deregulation, bigger tax cuts for the rich, and increased spending on the military.

    Economist's report his plans will result in bigger deficits, just as did the same policies under Bush.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    i had thought he wouldnt be the second bush but it seems he will complete what junior bush couldnt manage to do

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Their differences and qubbling are merely bad theatre for the masses to consume. Notice the awful acting? Its shadow puppet theatre! Then the media can concentrate on personalities, and cable news muppets can toss fodder to Jon Stewart.

    All the while, the war machine makes slaves of you all by ensaring you in a cycle of mass murder, poverty, disease, homelessness, unemployment , and hatred. All of our nations ills, as well as the doomed fate of those countries victimized by our voracious multiheaded hydra called "National Security," stem from the endless cycle of madness this massive Pentagon inflicts on the world.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, but according the candidate's policy proposals, Romney is Bush II!

    Deregulation, bigger tax cuts for the rich, and increased spending on the military.

    Economist's report his plans will result in bigger deficits, just as did the same policies under Bush.
    And Obama's won't?

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Zawisza View Post
    And Obama's won't?
    Unlike Romney, Obama is for the opposite of the Bush policies, he is for more financial regulation of the banks, eliminating the tax cuts for the rich, and less military spending.

    As Bill Maher noted when he donated a million dollars to Obama's reelection, my reason is mostly selfish, because I know 4 years of the deregulation and supply side economics as we had under Bush will cost me more than a million dollars.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Unlike Romney, Obama is for the opposite of the Bush policies, he is for more financial regulation of the banks, eliminating the tax cuts for the rich, and less military spending.

    As Bill Maher noted when he donated a million dollars to Obama's reelection, my reason is mostly selfish, because I know 4 years of the deregulation and supply side economics as we had under Bush will cost me more than a million dollars.
    I'd hardly consider corporatism the opposite of center-left regulatory policy. But regardless, my point was that Obama promised he'd halve the deficit, when he literally did the exact opposite and doubled it. I haven't heard him propose any serious plans to deal with the debt, and if he ever does, I'll believe in his commitment to deficit reduction when I see it happening.

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