There are differences between the two, but overall I'd call the differences in actually policy to be minor. The biggest thing I can think of is repealing DADT, which I give Obama props for. But on foreign policy, Obama has largely followed Bush's blueprint. His tone might be different, but we're still nation building and still pursuing a policy of active interventionism. Both of them spent money like water. Both of them have used to war on terror to expand the power of government at the cost of civil liberties. Obamacare was his baby, but I honestly believe if Bush had another term or if McCain had been elected we would've got something not too terribly different. Precise details would've been different, but we would've got more government involvement and oversight into healthcare no matter who was in the oval office in '08. One area where Obama has really disappointed me was the drug war. I didn't expect him to push for decriminalization or legalization just due to political realities, but I did think he'd back off from prosecuting medical marijuana in particular and put less emphasis on the whole war on drugs in general.
Slipping into madness is good for the sake of comparison - Unknown.
Obama is Bush on steroids.
The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016
He has done the exact opposite on the economy, and saying that he will declare war on iran is 100% speculation.
Run your own nation, play Cybernations."Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals."
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The fact of the matter is: These hired guns (not true liberals?) in the talk radio and TV news don't care about society, won't retract false reporting, and only care about exploiting your fears and hatreds for profit. Liberals in talk radio are going way out their way to avoid Obamas Libya invasion, and the Middle East uprisings, 9/11 Truth, war on terror issues in general, and how the Democratic Party rubber stamps George W. Bush's defense policy all the time. TALK ABOUT IGNORING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM! There is SERIOUS DAMAGE CONTROL going on at liberal talk radio.
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NPR has always been so effing phony and sold-out and KPFA and Pacifica, well, for years Democrats have been trying to water that down. So, they've got these pro-MoveOn, pro-reform-Democratic-Party-from-within-instead-of-build-a-strong-Left-party, Wellstone Democratic Renewal Club Democrats that have been pushing KPFA towards NPR-isation for at least a decade. But thanks to the dedication of grassroots listeners, they've been stymied to some extent. The grassroots people never seem to have as much cash or power-bureaucrats on their side, but they have the power of truth and conviction of their side.
Now, this Media Roots radio broadcast is truly refreshing and such an antidote to the uptight variety of intellectual radio that used to be the only conception I had of what radical radio can be. Thank you for giving listeners alternatives.
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The TV debates never let Ron Paul talk about the endless wars that bankrupted America the last 10 years, just like back in the 80's when Reagan bankrupted the U.S. Treasury with huge deficits fighting the Soviets, we armed the nation with huge MX missle and defense buildups. No one ever benefited from that military buildup except the defense industry and big oil, just like today. Just like no one benefitted from the Korean war and the Vietnam war, all done for profits.
The corp. media never talk about the human casualties and the human suffering caused by the wars and U.S. intervention in the "Arab Spring" uprisings. All the news media/talk radio wants us to focus on is this sham election and rigged primaries this whole last year and in 2012, who's up in the polls, and religous nonsense. The corporate media conglomerates share boards of directors with these huge war profiteers/ defense contractors, big oil, and those companies that profit from war. The controlled corp. media monopoly press, the electronic voting machines together, with the rigged tabloid TV/ radio three ring circus, make sure Big Brother has all his bases covered. And the message from the govmnt/ big business is: vote for your corporate candidate for more corporate profits that benefit corporate America.
Real change to our government has been taken "off the table," just like prosecuting Bush/Cheney was.
Americans who are really informed and really have a conscience about stopping the carnage in the Middle East and Asia, and who really are humanitarians and want to advance the brotherhood of man,would demand a third and fourth party, and they most certainly would not vote for these 2 identical, corrupt, Republican and Democrat parties.
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I think you guys are missing the glaringly obvious difference of Obama actually having a functioning brain. Obama has been fighting a congress that is so dysfunctional it is almost non-existent. That being said, he has gotten a surprisingly long list of accomplishments, all while painting the Republicans into a corner as being the corporate lap dogs they are.
You have to understand that there is not going to be any major differences between presidents when the congress that actually controls things is made up of the same idiots that were there with the previous administration.
I voted yes, primarily because his policies have been approximating that of Bush's lately.