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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Obama campaigned on change, but I cannot see it.
    I would ask you to look at the obstruction and resistance to the changes he has tried to impliment and notice who the obstructionists are. A quarterback can't win a game by himself. First, Americans vote him in to do what he said he would do. Then they vote in the people, not much later later, who make that job all but impossible. I blame the people, and the obstructionists they voted in to congress, more than I blame the president.

    I hope next term he has learned his lesson and quits even trying to work with the right side of the aisle. To hell with them. If we give him enough people in congress next elections, he can tell the whining malcontents to go to hell. That is, if he grows a bigger nutsack by then. There is NO point in trying to appease or negotiate with those charletons. Ramrod it through. **** 'em.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I would ask you to look at the obstruction and resistance to the changes he has tried to impliment and notice who the obstructionists are. A quarterback can't win a game by himself. First, Americans vote him in to do what he said he would do. Then they vote in the people, not much later later, who make that job all but impossible. I blame the people, and the obstructionists they voted in to congress, more than I blame the president.
    There's truth to your statement too, if people wanted change did they really expect it to happen in two years? Then they put the t-baggers in and nothing at all happens. Still Obama has caved on some ridiculous issues that makes him alot like Bush.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Bush was easily the worst President ever. So to be fair, if I compare Obusha to Bush, of course he's more humane and has made terrific progress with included Gays into society. On that issue, he's made me respect him.

    However, his well intentioned medical plans were a terrible waste of resources. This country certainly needed to have an insurance company of last resort for the people who couldn't get insurance from regular companies. But that got lost along the way with over-complexity. He should have invested his early political capital in resuscitating the economy but that's barely happened. He's lacked the courage to cut frivolous spending and to raise taxes with a direction toward managing the debt.

    Most of the extra spending and subsidized interest rates has profited a very few people. So maybe he's a good guy but I rate him at about 2.5 stars.

    Well, we'll see what the next 4 years brings. Maybe as a lame duck he'll be more effective.

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    There's truth to your statement too, if people wanted change did they really expect it to happen in two years? Then they put the t-baggers in and nothing at all happens. Still Obama has caved on some ridiculous issues that makes him alot like Bush.
    Or as Santorum put's it, "He took one for the team." I hear ya. But when I start getting down on Obama, I think of Bush. I think of Cheney. I think of FOXNews and the caustic "conservatives" that flood us daily with their spinning half truths and lies. My momma always said, "Never complain about your shoes hurting because some people don't have feet." LOL!
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I would ask you to look at the obstruction and resistance to the changes he has tried to impliment and notice who the obstructionists are. A quarterback can't win a game by himself. First, Americans vote him in to do what he said he would do. Then they vote in the people, not much later later, who make that job all but impossible. I blame the people, and the obstructionists they voted in to congress, more than I blame the president.

    I hope next term he has learned his lesson and quits even trying to work with the right side of the aisle. To hell with them. If we give him enough people in congress next elections, he can tell the whining malcontents to go to hell. That is, if he grows a bigger nutsack by then. There is NO point in trying to appease or negotiate with those charletons. Ramrod it through. **** 'em.
    On some issues, he has run into serious opposition, such as Gitmo, but other issues, like deportations, assassinations, and crackdowns on medical dispensaries are within his control. Obama has not shown change or leadership on these issue. Do Republicans deserve blame as well, of course, but not everything can be blamed on them.
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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    On some issues, he has run into serious opposition, such as Gitmo, but other issues, like deportations, assassinations, and crackdowns on medical dispensaries are within his control. Obama has not shown change or leadership on these issue. Do Republicans deserve blame as well, of course, but not everything can be blamed on them.
    I'm sure your right. But I would be delighted to see what Obama could do minus the regressive Tea Party types shunting the majority will of America.

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    Oh stop it Captain...The symphony was so delightful tonight though I may just give you a few shares. That is after we do a few rounds at the country club, if you can endure the riff raff they hired to do the improvements. Daphne always chastises me to be more tolerant of the working class and I always tell her, well if they could speak english better than we may be able to see eye to eye. Oh, but enough nonesense, we do wish to see you soon Captain...would be a pleasure. Tah tah...
    Why yes darling! Please remember to bring the Grey Poupon. Ciao!

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    Re: Is Obama just really Bush II?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Bush was easily the worst President ever.
    Really?

    Worse than the presidents who sent 500,000 Americans to their deaths fighting a civil war that they were too cowardly to prevent?
    Worse then the president who turned a recession into the Great Depression by signing a bill he knew would eviscerate the economy?

    Bush was bad, no questions about that. But the worst? Hardly.
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