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Thread: How generous are you? (Part I)

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    Re: How generous are you? (Part I)

    My opinion is the "test" has flaws because not enough info was given, and too many "what if's" came into play with the "test subjects" of why those chose what they chose in response to the poll. Not everything is black and white.

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    Re: How generous are you? (Part I)

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post

    If feeling good about helping other humans is built-in, then it still proves that altruism is part of our nature since there is a biological reward for doing so.
    Well, it's highly possible that we've just been psychologically conditioned to feel good about it. We're taught from a very young age to be *nice*, which implies that thoughts of self-interest are to be supressed, which is total bunk.
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    Re: How generous are you? (Part I)

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    That's splitting hairs. Feeling good about giving can be included in some people's personal utility, but you can't generalize all people based on it. You'd also have to prove that feeling good is the source of giving, instead of being a secondary byproduct of intending to give.

    If feeling good about helping other humans is built-in, then it still proves that altruism is part of our nature since there is a biological reward for doing so.
    It's not splitting hairs at all.
    Feeling good is what you receive for giving people material resources.

    It's a benefit, just not a tangible benefit.
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    Re: How generous are you? (Part I)

    i'm not buying that this test proves.disproves altruism...primarily because it seemingly supposes motive.

    I'm for giving it all away to the other person, but that doesn't mean altruism is behind me doing so.
    i simply don't need the money and I don't want the headaches of dividing it up and then going through the hassles of paying taxes on it.. let alone having that transaction red-flagged by the bank and investigated.
    to me, i'm giving away a set of problem I don't want to deal with.

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    Re: How generous are you? (Part I)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's not splitting hairs at all.
    Feeling good is what you receive for giving people material resources.

    It's a benefit, just not a tangible benefit.
    I understand you, I'm just pointing out the flaw in that determination. Just because someone feels good from being altruistic does not necessarily mean they do it because it feels good. If altruism must mean that there are no benefits to the person giving then altruism does not exist, according to how you have defined it. That's why I feel you are splitting hairs. We can argue about whether the chicken or the egg came first all day, but the fact remains that people are altruistic by nature.

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    Re: How generous are you? (Part I)

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I understand you, I'm just pointing out the flaw in that determination. Just because someone feels good from being altruistic does not necessarily mean they do it because it feels good. If altruism must mean that there are no benefits to the person giving then altruism does not exist, according to how you have defined it. That's why I feel you are splitting hairs. We can argue about whether the chicken or the egg came first all day, but the fact remains that people are altruistic by nature.
    It could be instinct.
    Kinda like sex, we do it because it feels good, it feels good because it encourages us to procreate.
    Sorta kinda like that.
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    Re: How generous are you? (Part I)

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    i'm not buying that this test proves.disproves altruism...primarily because it seemingly supposes motive.

    I'm for giving it all away to the other person, but that doesn't mean altruism is behind me doing so.
    i simply don't need the money and I don't want the headaches of dividing it up and then going through the hassles of paying taxes on it.. let alone having that transaction red-flagged by the bank and investigated.
    to me, i'm giving away a set of problem I don't want to deal with.
    Taxes, headaches, hassles, banks, investigations? Seriously?

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    Re: How generous are you? (Part I)

    Do I know anything about the other person? Because that would affect my decision quite a bit. If I knew they were a drug addict I'd be inclined to give less. If I knew they had just lost their job and needed the money more than me, I'd be inclined to give more.

    Knowing nothing about them, I'd probably give 10% or so at most.
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    Re: How generous are you? (Part I)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It could be instinct.
    Kinda like sex, we do it because it feels good, it feels good because it encourages us to procreate.
    Sorta kinda like that.
    I could see how that might be true. An instinct to protect the group for one's own survival.

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    Re: How generous are you? (Part I)

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I voted 50%, because all I need is enough to keep me comfortable for the rest of my life, and I'm not that greedy.
    Say the sum is 1 million and one dollar. Half would not keep you comfortable for life. Not even close...
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