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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Right now, Obama.

    Obama is not that bad, he's just way over his head and uninspiring and mediocre at best. It's rather telling that 11% of Democrats think he is the best president in US history.
    What is more telling is how many Republicans don't know that GW Bush was the WORST President in modern history and want continue down the same road he put us on.

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    I was honestly losing faith in our president until I started watching the Republicans on stage... I quickly found a way to believe in Obama again.
    Indeed. After Johnson and Huntsman bailed out, Obama's star went up.

    Romney will do anything and say anything to win. Romney has no core beliefs. And he's a massive liar. He enacted the precusor to Obama care and now he's saying it's different despite the very people who worked with him on it saying Romney is lying. Furthermore, Romney knows that the auto-bailout was required. No one who works in finance believes that his argument for a liquidation/bankruptcy would have worked. Romney is scum.

    Santorum is the worst combination of welfare and social authoritarian. Socially Conservative, Fiscally Liberal. I will never vote for someone like that.

    Paul, I do like some of his policies but his economics bother me. Plus he has no chance anyways.

    Newt, the fact that no one he worked his will endorse him is sufficient evidence not to vote for him.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    What is more telling is how many Republicans don't know that GW Bush was the WORST President in modern history and want continue down the same road he put us on.
    What's your time span for modern? 3 or 4 presidents? How can you be so sure of yourself a mere four years after Bush's administration ended?

    I don't know that he was the "WOST" President in modern history, mostly because I don't think you can go down that road, and further, I think anyone who says that shows how short-sighted and foolish a man can be.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Of course not. It's a sad tactic in American politics today to use hyperbole to make a case against the incumbent, and it comes from both parties equally.
    And it shows a severe lack of any historical knowledge.

    Last I checked, none of the recent presidents set the stage for 500,000 Americans to go off to die killing each other. Honestly, people need perspective.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    While your meaning is intelligent, you use the same hyperbole that you accuse the Right of doing with Obama (again, not an invalid, but somewhat credible complaint).
    I did use a hyperbole. It is a poor debate tactic but the offense behind the term drives people to respond both for and against. It also effectively alienated those who have such distaste with Obama. The only problem is that it left out the sensible opposition. I am happy that someone picked it up.

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    You seem to assume there is a standard definition of what is racist. This is clearly not the case. Increasingly, with a generation of the self-righteous produce of an American educational system the word 'racism' has been bandied about to the point where it is rendered useless to all but those who tediously use it. It has essentially become an all-inclusive term to designate those-who-do-not-share-my-liberal-views-on-the-subject-of-race.
    Sorry you see it that way. Others see it as simply calling it like it is. No other President has had his heritage under such scrutiny, no other President has been heckled by Congressmen during his State of the Union, no other President has endured as many filibusters of his programs or cabinet nominees and no other President has had a Senate leader who stated his only goal is to make Obama a one term Pres.. I'm am also sorry to inform you that racial equality is not a "liberal view", it's the law of the land.

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    It's because he is black.

    THis ranks as one of the most idiotic posts I have seen on this board in almost 7 years

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Sorry you see it that way. Others see it as simply calling it like it is. No other President has had his heritage under such scrutiny, no other President has been heckled by Congressmen during his State of the Union, no other President has endured as many filibusters of his programs or cabinet nominees and no other President has had a Senate leader who stated his only goal is to make Obama a one term Pres.. I'm am also sorry to inform you that racial equality is not a "liberal view", it's the law of the land.
    Bush was heckled during the State of the Union. Please, it has been incredibly common throughout American history to have an obstinate Congress. Need we remind you of President Andrew Johnson? A lot of presidents had been criticized heavily for cabinet nominees.

    Do you honestly believe this historically ridiculous nonsense? Did you expect people to accept it?
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    What's your time span for modern? 3 or 4 presidents? How can you be so sure of yourself a mere four years after Bush's administration ended?

    I don't know that he was the "WOST" President in modern history, mostly because I don't think you can go down that road, and further, I think anyone who says that shows how short-sighted and foolish a man can be.
    I'll ignore the insult and leave you with some"short-sighted and foolish" HISTORIANS critques of GW's disastrous Presidency, perhaps you memory is failing you.

    “It would be difficult to identify a President who, facing major international and domestic crises, has failed in both as clearly as President Bush,” concluded one respondent. “His domestic policies,” another noted, “have had the cumulative effect of shoring up a semi-permanent aristocracy of capital that dwarfs the aristocracy of land against which the founding fathers rebelled; of encouraging a mindless retreat from science and rationalism; and of crippling the nation’s economic base.
    No individual president can compare to the second Bush,” wrote one. “Glib, contemptuous, ignorant, incurious, a dupe of anyone who humors his deluded belief in his heroic self, he has bankrupted the country with his disastrous war and his tax breaks for the rich, trampled on the Bill of Rights, appointed foxes in every henhouse, compounded the terrorist threat, turned a blind eye to torture and corruption and a looming ecological disaster, and squandered the rest of the world’s goodwill. In short, no other president’s faults have had so deleterious an effect on not only the country but the world at large.”
    “With his unprovoked and disastrous war of aggression in Iraq and his monstrous deficits, Bush has set this country on a course that will take decades to correct,” said another historian. “When future historians look back to identify the moment at which the United States began to lose its position of world leadership, they will point—rightly—to the Bush presidency. Thanks to his policies, it is now easy to see America losing out to its competitors in any number of areas: China is rapidly becoming the manufacturing powerhouse of the next century, India the high tech and services leader, and Europe the region with the best quality of life.”
    http://harpers.org/archive/2008/04/hbc-90002804
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Indeed. After Johnson and Huntsman bailed out, Obama's star went up.
    I think Huntsman would have been really good for this country. It is really sad that he had no chance from the start.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Romney will do anything and say anything to win. Romney is scum.
    Romney is still bitter from his past political failures and will do anything to prove that he can make it. But he can't

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Santorum is the worst combination of welfare and social authoritarian. Socially Conservative, Fiscally Liberal. I will never vote for someone like that. .
    Santorum is dangerously ignorant. That is all I will say about him.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Paul, I do like some of his policies but his economics bother me. Plus he has no chance anyways.
    Ron Paul would make an amazing Secretary of State. His foreign policy would save America so much money. But his actual economic policies are scary.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Newt, the fact that no one he worked his will endorse him is sufficient evidence not to vote for him.
    MOONBASE. I rest my case.

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