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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    All this shows is that you don't notice what your own side does. So, yeah, partisan hackery.
    It shows I don't pay attention to the leftwing fringe, which was what you posted. Those on the right pushing such idiocies are far more mainstream, like Limbaugh and Hannity.

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    My issues with Obama are the same with any fiscal liberal (Myself being a fiscal conservative).
    When Obama uses a phrase like, " I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money."
    It shows his core believe, that the Government owns the result of your labor first, and allow you
    to keep what the Government deems fair. (we are all just part of a large plantation.)
    The Government is not charged participating in charity.
    When did Liberals become more interested in, is everyone getting an equal amount, vs,
    I want to be as free as possible?

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    My issues with Obama are the same with any fiscal liberal (Myself being a fiscal conservative).
    When Obama uses a phrase like, " I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money."
    It shows his core believe, that the Government owns the result of your labor first, and allow you
    to keep what the Government deems fair. (we are all just part of a large plantation.)
    The Government is not charged participating in charity.
    When did Liberals become more interested in, is everyone getting an equal amount, vs,
    I want to be as free as possible?
    When they became socialists but were afraid of the stigma. They will say, "I am not a socialist (bad word), I am a liberal (another bad word), so now they are progressives.*

    *'Socialist' and 'Liberal' have been historically such failures that they had to adopt 'Progressive', which is being added to the garbage heap. That's why so many of them call themselves 'Centrists' and 'Moderates'. Conservatives have no such qualms.

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It shows I don't pay attention to the leftwing fringe, which was what you posted. Those on the right pushing such idiocies are far more mainstream, like Limbaugh and Hannity.
    This is the "left-wing fringe"?

    .Agenda Project.

    And obviously you never watch MSNBC. But it's not surprising that you're unaware of how much your own side does it. Partisan hackery.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    When they became socialists but were afraid of the stigma. They will say, "I am not a socialist (bad word), I am a liberal (another bad word), so now they are progressives.*
    Those are three different things.

    Do people on the right get daily talking points or something? I see this mentioned constantly on this board.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    My issues with Obama are the same with any fiscal liberal (Myself being a fiscal conservative).
    When Obama uses a phrase like, " I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money."
    It shows his core believe, that the Government owns the result of your labor first, and allow you
    to keep what the Government deems fair. (we are all just part of a large plantation.)
    The Government is not charged participating in charity.
    When did Liberals become more interested in, is everyone getting an equal amount, vs,
    I want to be as free as possible?
    I don't think it is a socialistic or communist issue. I feel that it is more of an efficiency issue. Historically, when the rich are allowed to become richer without restrictions, the middle and lower classes are hurt. It can be best seen in the Great Depression. The highly unregulated trusts, although attempts were made in the preceding progressive movement, left an extreme gap between the rich and the middle class. The middle class had begun to disappear altogether. Then, in 1930, the economy collapsed. It can also be seen in the years from the 70's until the most recent recession. The same problem is recurring and we have yet to fix it. I'm not advocating socialism, but when you give the big kid complete freedom, the little kid gets bullied. It is human nature.

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    When they became socialists but were afraid of the stigma. They will say, "I am not a socialist (bad word), I am a liberal (another bad word), so now they are progressives.*

    *'Socialist' and 'Liberal' have been historically such failures that they had to adopt 'Progressive', which is being added to the garbage heap. That's why so many of them call themselves 'Centrists' and 'Moderates'. Conservatives have no such qualms.

    Socialists are completely different from Progressives. Their beliefs aren't even close to being alike. That is mere partisan name calling.

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    It's because he is black.
    He's only half black.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Socialists are completely different from Progressives. Their beliefs aren't even close to being alike. That is mere partisan name calling.
    You really believe that bull****, hahahahaha. You really shouldn't believe everything you think.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You really believe that bull****, hahahahaha. You really shouldn't believe everything you think.
    The 'hahahahaha' makes it convincing.

    I'm not sure why people believe they should be taken seriously, when they feel their opinions put them above respecting anyone who does not share them.
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