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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    The conservative base portrays Obama as an "Anti-Christ" figure practically. Why is this? I personally don't find Obama to be half as bad as he is portrayed to be.
    In a country which relies heavily on business, industry, and capitalism in order to pay its bills and fund all the social programs/interests, here and around the world, that we do fund historically, yes, he's that bad. The last thing that a country like the USA needs, is one that is anti-capitalism and anti-business. Even Bill Clinton had enough sense to understand which side of the bread was buttered.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    In a country which relies heavily on business, industry, and capitalism in order to pay its bills and fund all the social programs/interests, here and around the world, that we do fund historically, yes, he's that bad. The last thing that a country like the USA needs, is one that is anti-capitalism and anti-business. Even Bill Clinton had enough sense to understand which side of the bread was buttered.
    The only goal of business is to make money. Buy it's very nature, a business sees humans as nothing more than another natural resource and a renewable one at that. It does not notice the health of humans, the discomfort if them, or even whether they die as long as there are plenty of replacements to continue business as usual. As long as dead or dying humans are making more money for business than they cost to replace, it's good business to let them die. Indeed, this is already a part of history where many humans have died and many more have become sick from the byproducts of business. Without government to protect humans you have condemned humans to being nothing more than another commodity existing solely to be exploited by business as it sees fit.


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    For historic examples of policies that were not anti-business see: http://www.epa.gov/superfund/
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    But not as good as Hillary would have been.
    no ,hillary doesnt seem to be enough democrat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    no ,hillary doesnt seem to be enough democrat
    I have no idea what that means.

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We are talking about people that could actually win the GOP nomination. The majority of Republicans think Ron Paul is nuts.




    Bush increased spending on the military and started two wars. Do you think Obama should have withdrawn all troops from both of the Bush wars immediately upon taking office. He's already ended the GOP war in Iraq, and is winding down the war in Afghanistan and has called for cuts in military spending.

    The Gop candidates are calling for increased spending on the military.

    Bush cut taxes for the rich. President Obama cut taxes for the working class, and has proposed eliminating the tax cuts for the rich.




    Fannie and Freddie didn't cause the financial crisis, and check out H.R. #1489 to reestablish the separation between investment banks and commercial banks.



    No difference from the viable GOP candidates. The only hope to address those is add to the Democratic support in congress to end them.
    You didn't contradict anything that I said,.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Yup, it's because he's black.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The only goal of business is to make money. Buy it's very nature, a business sees humans as nothing more than another natural resource and a renewable one at that. It does not notice the health of humans, the discomfort if them, or even whether they die as long as there are plenty of replacements to continue business as usual. As long as dead or dying humans are making more money for business than they cost to replace, it's good business to let them die. Indeed, this is already a part of history where many humans have died and many more have become sick from the byproducts of business. Without government to protect humans you have condemned humans to being nothing more than another commodity existing solely to be exploited by business as it sees fit.
    Consider if you replace the word 'business' with 'war' and see how regardless of the common struggle they are all similar in nature.

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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Consider if you replace the word 'business' with 'war' and see how regardless of the common struggle they are all similar in nature.
    Sadly, most governments don't protect us from war, they get us into them.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    The conservative base portrays Obama as an "Anti-Christ" figure practically. Why is this? I personally don't find Obama to be half as bad as he is portrayed to be.
    He's not really any different than George Bush.
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    Re: Is Obama THAT bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    In a country which relies heavily on business, industry, and capitalism in order to pay its bills and fund all the social programs/interests, here and around the world, that we do fund historically, yes, he's that bad. The last thing that a country like the USA needs, is one that is anti-capitalism and anti-business. Even Bill Clinton had enough sense to understand which side of the bread was buttered.
    You do realize that Obama has taken many of Bush's pro-business programs from cheap lending and lots of tax deductions/credits to new levels that are directly causing our debt to expand no? If Obama is anti-business, so was Bush.

    I honestly see very little difference between Dubya and Obama at this point.

    That said, I would vote for Bush over the crop of Republicans left in the Nomination process.
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