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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's part of the social contract I mentioned...please continue.
    God is not the legal definer of our laws, the Constitution is. In fact the framers were quite clear on that matter. And where the framers got their ideas is not relevant since it is clear that no religious test shall be given to anybody in the government. SO your social contract is only a personal opinion.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    I probably would choose an athiest over any of the "so called" christian candidates the republicans currently have to offer. I wish it really didn't matter. Desiring smaller government, but then wanting to interfere in women's private lives, and dictate what is or isn't allowed in the bedroom, is not acceptable. Clearly, to me, our founding fathers worked hard to establish a secular government. They were extremely catious to prevent religion from participating in government.
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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    I voted yes however I would much rather have an agnostic as POTUS. They're as close to neutral on the subject as you can get.
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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Not ever. According to our social contract, all rights come from God. If you don't believe in God, you therefore don't believe in any of those rights, because how could those rights come from someone who doesn't exist.
    Maybe nobody has to give them to you; just the fact that you are an intelligent and conscious being means that you automatically have your rights instead of it being a gift.
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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Maybe nobody has to give them to you; just the fact that you are an intelligent and conscious being means that you automatically have your rights instead of it being a gift.
    To quote Voltaire, "if God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him." If in the afterlife I am not held accountable for my current actions, and I'm in a position of absolute power, what incentive do I have to not abuse it?

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I wanted to see if religious people would vote for a president who shared all of his views on politics (excepting the religious points of social conservatism) but didn't believe in God.

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    I'd vote for an atheist. However, if there were two similar candidates that I liked and one was atheist and the other was theist, I'd vote for the latter.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    I think ti's funny that some people REALLY care that much (not everyone - of course)

    It's funny: us athiests have never had an athiest to vote for - so we end up voting for believers based on politics and these other things that matter so much more We have to accept that most people are religious.

    If we can get over our religious disbeliefs in favor over the Congressmember or President who might do best in the office then why can't some of you do the same?
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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I think ti's funny that some people REALLY care that much (not everyone - of course)

    It's funny: us athiests have never had an athiest to vote for - so we end up voting for believers based on politics and these other things that matter so much more We have to accept that most people are religious.

    If we can get over our religious disbeliefs in favor over the Congressmember or President who might do best in the office then why can't some of you do the same?
    Non-belief does not often have the same deterministic influence over a person's choices and decisions as belief often does. Although it's not dramatically important to me to have a theist president, I would prefer someone who believes that they might have to answer to a higher power and who possess a certain humility in light of that. Other people certainly have even more intense preferences with regards to theism and religion.

    At first glance, it might not make much sense that some theists would care so much, but when you take in account the fact that theism and especially religion are often very influential in how people make decisions, it's more easy to understand.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I think ti's funny that some people REALLY care that much (not everyone - of course)

    It's funny: us athiests have never had an athiest to vote for - so we end up voting for believers based on politics and these other things that matter so much more We have to accept that most people are religious.

    If we can get over our religious disbeliefs in favor over the Congressmember or President who might do best in the office then why can't some of you do the same?
    it's not a matter of "we can't" , it's a matter of "we don't have to"
    it's one of the perks of being in the vast majority

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it's not a matter of "we can't" , it's a matter of "we don't have to"
    it's one of the perks of being in the vast majority
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