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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    41 to 3 that our posters would vote for an athiest president.

    This tells us how irrelevant our Christian Right really is. And how a small minority can make a big, huge noise.
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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    41 to 3 that our posters would vote for an athiest president.

    This tells us how irrelevant our Christian Right really is. And how a small minority can make a big, huge noise.
    we don't know how OUR posters responded. i don't like non public polls.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Zawisza View Post
    Ever heard of these fellas?
    Oh, yeahhhh...these fellas!

    One was a claimed christian...and the others were claimed atheists. The reality is...they were first and foremost mass murders. They were wired psychopaths who would commit the same crimes against humanity no matter what their metaphysical labels or lack there of were.

    There is no statistical relationship between atheism and being a psychopath. A number of Popes of the past were mass murders - and some of the first organized crime families, too. In other words...people who are willing to commit mass murder come in all shapes, forms, and beliefs.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    S.E. Cupp would make a great president, and she is an athiest, but she understands that this country was founded on Judeo-Christian values.
    Which values are those? Please tell me. I'm dying to know.
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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    41 to 3 that our posters would vote for an athiest president.

    This tells us how irrelevant our Christian Right really is. And how a small minority can make a big, huge noise.
    I voted no because of the phrasing of the question and the OP's binary reasoning.
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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    They are at risk, no doubt, but the difference lies in the actions of said individual. Morality can clearly be seen by the actions of the individual, and by the way they live their lives. Being at risk does not mean that one will become immoral.
    You have clarified our difference, thanks. I think a persons morality is predictive quality, will his actions in the future properly extrapolate from the lessons he has learned, even if they don't exactly fit, be moral. With some people you can reasonably predict that their future actions will be moral as well there are others where it is easy to predict that some of their future actions will not be moral. I'm sorry that precise predictions are not possible; and this happens all the time, and we are surprised.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How do you know they are not fake religious?
    And those should be the scary ones to the truly religious and atheist alike. The religious at least believe eternal torment awaits them if they do wrong to others, the atheist sort of has to rely on the Golden Rule to get through their one and only chance at existence. The faker, who knows what they really believe? It's the person who shows up to church out of cultural pressure, vaguely believes in an afterlife which has no relationship to their mortal actions, playing the Pascal wager, whose moral compass would be most questionable in my eyes.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    That's right. Continuing that line of thought, it follows then that the more intelligent or learned one is, the more they are aware of what is right and what is wrong. The more intelligent one is, the higher the moral burden one bears.

    Yet, seeing the difference between right and wrong doesn't imply that they will choose to do what is right.

    There is a choice involved as well. How do you define that?
    The choice is to act morally or immorally. No animal has that choice, as they are amoral. Just because one is smart enough to understand good from evil doesn't mean that they'll choose good over evil. Some people are just dicks. But without that intellect in the first place, it can be argued that morality in general doesn't exist. Morality requires empathy and intelligence. Without those, you cannot be a moral (or immoral) creature.
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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    41 to 3 that our posters would vote for an athiest president.

    This tells us how irrelevant our Christian Right really is. And how a small minority can make a big, huge noise.
    All it tells you is a little bit about the makeup of this board...

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The choice is to act morally or immorally. No animal has that choice, as they are amoral. Just because one is smart enough to understand good from evil doesn't mean that they'll choose good over evil. Some people are just dicks. But without that intellect in the first place, it can be argued that morality in general doesn't exist. Morality requires empathy and intelligence. Without those, you cannot be a moral (or immoral) creature.
    I agree with you; the smarter one gets, the more awareness one has of the inherent morality/immorality of his choices. The question is, what defining characteristic makes some people choose to do the right thing, and others choose to do the wrong thing?

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