Thread: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent

A girl in my highschool: she is much humbler than me and much kinder. She helps others even if it may hurt her. She is atheist. I knew her for over a year before I knew she was atheist. Moral values aren't religion-exclusive.

Maybe not. But I don't think I could trust a president who wasn't religious. So much of their personality that we see is fake. It's not like that girl who you knew for a year.

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

Intelligence has nothing to do with morality.

Intellect is indeed a major part of morality. It takes knowledge of right and wrong to know there is a right and wrong. Without intelligence, we'd all be sitting around throwing our poo and there would be no morality.

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

Maybe not. But I don't think I could trust a president who wasn't religious. So much of their personality that we see is fake. It's not like that girl who you knew for a year.

That's pretty arrogant, stating that the non-religious cannot be honest.

Originally Posted by Ikari

Intellect is indeed a major part of morality. It takes knowledge of right and wrong to know there is a right and wrong. Without intelligence, we'd all be sitting around throwing our poo and there would be no morality.

So more intelligent people are more moral?

Originally Posted by Ikari

That's pretty arrogant, stating that the non-religious cannot be honest.

Nah, I stated that politicians are plastic and fake. At least if they're religious, I know what they believe.

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

So more intelligent people are more moral?

Nope, but without intelligence you cannot develop a moral code. Intellect does not guarantee morality, but you cannot have morality without it.

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

Nah, I stated that politicians are plastic and fake. At least if they're religious, I know what they believe.

Ahh OK, that didn't come through in the quote; but fair enough. Though we've made a habit of only voting for "religious" candidates, and perhaps you see the mess we're in now. Being religious is no guarantee of morality either.

Originally Posted by Peter Grimm

Nah, I stated that politicians are plastic and fake. At least if they're religious, I know what they believe.

How do you know they are not fake religious?

Originally Posted by Ikari

Nope, but without intelligence you cannot develop a moral code. Intellect does not guarantee morality, but you cannot have morality without it.

Well, you can if you never question authority, and there are people who do live that way.

Originally Posted by lizzie

Well, you can if you never question authority, and there are people who do live that way.

Individually, yes. Human's have free will; they can choose not to exercise it. That's why collectively we've written it into religious text as well as other societal reinforces .