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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know? How is someone so arrogant that they think atheists can't be a good person have those traits?
    Religion teaches us our own limitations. It is humble to accept that there is a greater intelligence out there than our own, that we are created by the good graces of God, and that we owe our existence to Him.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Religion teaches us our own limitations. It is humble to accept that there is a greater intelligence out there than our own, that we are created by the good graces of God, and that we owe our existence to Him.
    K. Yet less you know everything there is to know about humanity, you can't really say that one who does not believe in such a god cannot be a good person. That's just personal bias and prejudice based upon your personal beliefs.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I agree that there are some people, who call themselves "Christian," who are not. In fact, the Christian label can be very misleading, because very few who claim to be faithful actually have any fear of God in their hearts.

    To me, the heart of a good person is unselfish and not arrogant. How can someone who is too prideful to submit to God have those traits?
    But there are non-religious people that are selfless and humble. I'm not saying that religous people don't have good moral values, I'm only saying that non-religous people can possess the same traits.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    But there are non-religious people that are selfless and humble. I'm not saying that religous people don't have good moral values, I'm only saying that non-religous people can possess the same traits.
    How can an atheist define morality?

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    How can an atheist define morality?
    By common sense and deductive reasoning, just like everyone else. Problem is some among us have significantly less than others.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    How can an atheist define morality?
    But that's just the naturally arrogant side of your argument coming out. Why couldn't they? Intelligence and empathy were not solely rewarded to the religious.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    How can an atheist define morality?
    A girl in my highschool: she is much humbler than me and much kinder. She helps others even if it may hurt her. She is atheist. I knew her for over a year before I knew she was atheist. Moral values aren't religion-exclusive.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    By common sense and deductive reasoning, just like everyone else. Problem is some among us have significantly less than others.
    What role does deductive reasoning have in morality? Serious question.

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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What role does deductive reasoning have in morality? Serious question.
    Intelligence and empathy are the seeds of morality.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Vote for an atheist president (for religious people)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    But that's just the naturally arrogant side of your argument coming out. Why couldn't they? Intelligence and empathy were not solely rewarded to the religious.
    Intelligence has nothing to do with morality. In fact, intelligence without wisdom has lead to some of the biggest breaches of morality in human history.

    Empathy: I will agree this plays a huge role. But is it enough just to feel it, or shouldn't there be some sort of verbal exploration of the concept?

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