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Thread: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    that needs to end, forthwith.
    If you take the money.. you take the tems and conditions.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    That sounds like a flaw with it then.
    Yes - a flaw with basing health insurance on employer coverage, and when religious organizations act as employers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Is it about preference then?
    Yes - preference based on effectiveness and medical conditions. When it's used as a method of birth control. For some medical conditions, it's a necessity of health.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    If you take the money.. you take the tems and conditions.
    don't employ people if you want to follow special rules.

    don't take taxpayer dollars, if you want special considerations.

    looks like they want their cake and a fork too..and its bull****.


    the People, through their elected representatives, have the RIGHT to regulate employers, to make sure they treat their workers fairly & justly.

    don't like it? don't hire people.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I've brought this up in a couple of other discussions on the HHS mandate.

    Does the Federal Government have the right to force Muslim grocers to carry pork in their stores?
    No. The Government should not force ANY store to carry ANYTHING they do not want to as long as they abide by every other US law.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    I don't know.

    If Traditionally Christian stores are forced to hire homosexuals and transvestites, then shouldn't Muslim stores be forced to sell pork?

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I don't know.

    If Traditionally Christian stores are forced to hire homosexuals and transvestites, then shouldn't Muslim stores be forced to sell pork?
    Apples to Oranges. Discrimination does not compare to not selling something
    Last edited by TheLastIndependent; 02-18-12 at 02:52 PM.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I don't know.

    If Traditionally Christian stores are forced to hire homosexuals and transvestites, then shouldn't Muslim stores be forced to sell pork?
    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. Has ANY employer ever asked you about your sexual orientation?

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I don't know.

    If Traditionally Christian stores are forced to hire homosexuals and transvestites, then shouldn't Muslim stores be forced to sell pork?
    Who is being forced to hire homosexuals? That's different from being forced to not discriminate.
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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I don't know.

    If Traditionally Christian stores are forced to hire homosexuals and transvestites, then shouldn't Muslim stores be forced to sell pork?
    Homosexuals and transvestites are not protected and as such do not have to be hired. Its race, age, religion, sex, national origin. Those are the protected classes employers may not discriminate against.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Who is being forced to hire homosexuals? That's different from being forced to not discriminate.
    Reverse: Who is not being forced to hire homosexuals? That's different from being forced to not reverse discriminate.

    oh, wait reverse discrimination doesn't happen.

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