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Thread: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    A Catholic hospital providing the only source of hospital care in an area should use it's dominance to require all patients and their immediate families to convert while care is being provided. Not even local government should be allowed to get in the way of that.
    HUH? Sorry I just missed your point, Let's move back to the subject per OP or real question of the thread. I am so sick of hearing about this contraception in every thread that can be derailed quickly back to that topic off the original topic of threads.
    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I've brought this up in a couple of other discussions on the HHS mandate.

    Does the Federal Government have the right to force Muslim grocers to carry pork in their stores?
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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Italy is talking about taxing the Catholic church in their current financial crisis, though it seems the Vatican is having an internal crisis of it's own.
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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    I can't believe I'm the only one who voted yes. Have you guys been keeping up with the news? Clearly the federal government can because they already have. If they wanted to mandate that all store sell pork or that Jewish delis must serve cheeseburgers then clearly they can.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    If the business thinks it is in there best interest to not provide a service/item that other similar businesses are willing to provide or when another investor steps up to compete (providing demand for it is there) then the chips will be in the air determining whether it was a sound business decision or not. I think that markets generally will drive the demand, even in rural areas.

    Should pharmacies be required to sell that marijuana tobacco, marijuana tobacco pipes, and marijuana tobacco bongs in states that break federal law to enact their own "overriding" state law?

    Could this similar argument be made on employers needing to install winkie washers in the restrooms to prevent the people with religions that require this by washing their winkies in the sink where the rest of the employees wash their hands before they eat lunch?

    Further if your religion prevents you from doing the job that I need you to do and I have to do the job myself then I no longer need that employee.

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    Who pays for the "can of worms" ?
    And of course, the birds will become fat and lazy if the government provides the worms.
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    I partially agree with your argument, but my trust of "markets" is limited.
    Employees must know that their religion must must be secondary to their job...IMO...

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    The government has no business telling a business how to run its busines. If you don't like the choices where you live, you have the right to go somewhere else, or learn to like mutton. That it might be inconvenient to do so is once again not the business of government.

    Fact is, pork, foi gras, truffles, or caviar is available to anyone in the US who has access to an internet connection and a PayPal account. I would expect no store to cater to my whims.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    I can't believe I'm the only one who voted yes. Have you guys been keeping up with the news? Clearly the federal government can because they already have. If they wanted to mandate that all store sell pork or that Jewish delis must serve cheeseburgers then clearly they can.
    No they can't... no more than they can demand that Kroger carry smoked turkey ..

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    HUH? Sorry I just missed your point, Let's move back to the subject per OP or real question of the thread. I am so sick of hearing about this contraception in every thread that can be derailed quickly back to that topic off the original topic of threads.
    The real question was "Can the Federal Government force a business to violate the owners religion?" So, I think I sighted an exact example. I also noted the store owners religion, just a random choice, right?

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Is there a prohibition in the Koran for SELLING pork? Just curious.
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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    The state may prohibit the sale of certain items, but, cannot compel a store owner to sell pork.


    I got hungry reading this thread I am going to go pig out now.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Interesting
    Who pays for the "can of worms" ?
    And of course, the birds will become fat and lazy if the government provides the worms.
    Its all to the interpretation, I actually was referring to posting the pic was that it just may be easier to find another source.

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