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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Jesus quoted and referenced the OT countless times. The OT is the Gospel of faith. The Law was never supposed to save, but serves other purposes.
    The New testament is the testament of Christ and Christianity. If you breaks the rules of Christianity don't expect to hide behind the religion in honesty. Those who preach hate aren't Christian just imposters or false prophets.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    The New testament is the testament of Christ and Christianity. If you breaks the rules of Christianity don't expect to hide behind the religion in honesty. Those who preach hate aren't Christian just imposters or false prophets.
    But you're not a Christian. Who are you to secularly define hate, try to put your view into the Bible, and expect Christians to live by your morals?

    Consider ALL of the Book of Acts, for example. Consider ALL of the verses in the NT.

    Don't speak to me about false prophets if you think ONLY the red text is valid.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    What's next...government forcing snow cone stands to poor bacon drippings on ice?

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    But you're not a Christian. Who are you to secularly define hate, try to put your view into the Bible, and expect Christians to live by your morals?

    Consider ALL of the Book of Acts, for example. Consider ALL of the verses in the NT.

    Don't speak to me about false prophets if you think ONLY the red text is valid.
    I am a Christian son. I have been a pentacostal since I was 3. I know very well what the bible says as I was required to read it daily growing up. Also, it should go with out saying that the words of Christ matter most in Christianity. The entire new testament and bible are valid, but doesn't necessarily make the old testament relevant to a Christian. Christ was clear in his teachings. You need to read the bible.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    But you're not a Christian. Who are you to secularly define hate, try to put your view into the Bible, and expect Christians to live by your morals?

    Consider ALL of the Book of Acts, for example. Consider ALL of the verses in the NT.

    Don't speak to me about false prophets if you think ONLY the red text is valid.
    I'd have way much more respect for the Christians you describe if they simply practiced to the best of their abilities to be living examples of their faith. In other words, "walk the walk" instead of "talk the talk", which seems to be commonplace.

    And Wake, I don't think that you represent all their views and beliefs...(of all Christians).
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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I'd have way much more respect for the Christians you describe if they simply practiced to the best of their abilities to be living examples of their faith. In other words, "walk the walk" instead of "talk the talk", which seems to be commonplace.

    And Wake, I don't think that you represent all their views and beliefs...(of all Christians).
    The EXACT same thing could be said to social liberals who change the Bible.

    All of the KJV should be taken seriously, regarding Christianity. Not just the Red Text. Not just the commandments. Not just the OT. Etc.

    You seem to assume Christians only talk the talk and not walk the walk. You'd be wrong. There are MANY Christians who only talk the talk. However, there are some who not only do the talking, but also the walking, per se.

    That's one reason why I try to get people to not ignore the NT scriptures.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post

    That's one reason why I try to get people to not ignore the NT scriptures.
    So you think that you can prevent people from kind of make up their own version as they go along?

    Actually, the reality is that that's what most people do with the bible. People's belief systems are like finger prints...all different.

    As far as changing the bible...that's been done probably thousands of times since its beginning. And way before social liberals came along.
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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Apples to Oranges. Discrimination does not compare to not selling something
    Wouldn't not selling pork to non muslims because of your religious beliefs be discrimination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Wouldn't not selling pork to non muslims because of your religious beliefs be discrimination?
    No barring non Muslims from buying anything would be discrimination.

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    Re: Force Muslim Grocers to Carry Pork

    If I own a Store in which I sell poontang....and government or anybody else wants to force me to sell "thingamabobs" along with the poontang...because I'm of a particular religion, creed, race...etc. I say that they are violating my Civil Rights.

    Hey...don't like my not selling thingamabobs...up yours...go someplace else.

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