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Thread: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

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    Re: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Serious face on- I don't foresee us shooting communists. We have far too many of them here.
    so many communists, so few bullets

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    Re: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Both forms of government, like all forms of government, had their fair share of unfortunate side effects and unintended consequences. Both forms of government, like all authoritarian governments, had more than their fair share of corruption and outright abuse of power. But between the two of them, Fascism is the one that can actually work, the one that has a solid grounding in realpolitik and human nature. Thus, between the two of them, Communism is worse.
    I suspect you are probably right in your observations. In a Fascist country, I would think there might be a little more room for creative expression, so I would tend to think it would be preferable. In communism, there seems to be no incentive for the individual to be productive at all.
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    Re: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Both forms of government, like all forms of government, had their fair share of unfortunate side effects and unintended consequences. Both forms of government, like all authoritarian governments, had more than their fair share of corruption and outright abuse of power. But between the two of them, Fascism is the one that can actually work, the one that has a solid grounding in realpolitik and human nature. Thus, between the two of them, Communism is worse.
    Well communism in Russia lasted 70 years and has lasted in China and North Korea for a long time as well. Fascism was destroyed in less than 10 years. So I mean the arguement that fascism can "work" really doesn't pan out as we can learn from history where communism still survives today. Regaurdless they both don't work at all for the people, communism just gives the illusion better than facism that it works because it tries to say everyone is equal when they really arent. Where in fascism the dictator and his governors just say this is the way it is and we are taking over everything. Doesn't really give any illusion to the people like communism which is why it didn't last too long.
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    Re: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Well communism in Russia lasted 70 years and has lasted in China and North Korea for a long time as well.
    Russia's communism (it never really was communist- but it was their goal) collapsed due to the inability to produce enough money to pay for it. That's the problem with communism long term. There must be productivity and financial resources. Communism pretty much wipes out the incentive to produce.
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    Re: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

    Which is why China is a Communist Capitalist society now.
    "Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they’ll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they’ll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it’s the sand of the coliseum. He’ll bring them death – and they will love him for it.” - Senator Gracchus (Gladiator)

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    Re: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Well communism in Russia lasted 70 years and has lasted in China and North Korea for a long time as well. Fascism was destroyed in less than 10 years. So I mean the arguement that fascism can "work" really doesn't pan out as we can learn from history where communism still survives today. Regaurdless they both don't work at all for the people, communism just gives the illusion better than facism that it works because it tries to say everyone is equal when they really arent. Where in fascism the dictator and his governors just say this is the way it is and we are taking over everything. Doesn't really give any illusion to the people like communism which is why it didn't last too long.
    IMO, the disparity between the lifespan of communism and fascism in the 20th century really came down to geopolitics in WW2, not ideological differences. Russia's winter, population, and sheer size made an ultimately successful German invasion an impossibility.

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    Re: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

    Wow, I see decades of propaganda (the evil Russian commies will come to America to eat you with your clothes altogether) has worked. The irony is that due to American economic, foreign and most of all financial policy the yellow commies (i.e. the Chinese) might do exactly that.

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    Re: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Communism pretty much wipes out the incentive to produce.
    You imply the only purpose of production is profit.
    And frankly a society is incentivized to produce as much as you and I are incentivized to eat.
    A country with no motive beyond a profit motive is no society at all.

    Fascism and communism are interesting.. I voted fascism as worse because in europe it attempted to create a new racial political caste system.
    Last edited by MKULTRABOY; 02-16-12 at 03:53 AM.

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    Re: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so many communists, so few bullets
    What's that I hear... is that the sound of an unmanned drone wizzing overhead? Thank god, there's some guy with alot of guns that sees communists everywhere and he's threatening people.

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    Re: Which is worse IYHO: fascism or communism?

    I refuse to vote as they are both ****ed up
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